Talk:Rock Against Bush

List of contributors
Not sure the Complete List Of Contributors is necessary, as the albums are now linked. Gram 13:18, 10 July 2005 (UTC)
 * I just removed that. I also added a criticism section. Also, does anyone think Punk Voter should redirect here?

Vol 3.
random comment form random person- there arent any plans for a vol.3. DELETED!!!!!


 * Evidence?


 * Where did the release date of 18 Oct 2006 for Volume 3 come from? I'm dubious cos it's not listed on either Punk Voter or the Fat Wreck site. I noticed that the previous compilation, PROTECT: A Benefit for the National Association to Protect Children was released on 18 Oct 2005. Could this be a mix-up? Gram 15:59, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

Failour of project
Can I just say, I'm not sure that the statement "The project was not successful, as President George W. Bush went on to win re-election with a majority of the popular vote" would be the best way to describe things.I mean, he did win the election but the onus was not all on the Rock Against Bush campaign to make people vote against Bush. It was just trying to convince punk fans to vote, and vote against Bush. So, even assuming all of them did, if everyone else voted for him, then the campaign couldn't have helped that, right? I mean, the initial target of this was the people who like punk anyway, right? So to see how successful the Rock Against Bush thing was, you'd have to look at how many of the Kerry voters were punk fans, and how many of the punk fans voted Kerry, and other things that are even harder to measure like the kind of awareness that it raised. For example, some of said punk fans may not have been old eniugh to vote at that time but they were still infuenced by this campaign, and things like that. So as to that statement, it might be a beter idea to just leave out the whole issue of how successful it was, since it's kind of hard to determine. OK, I tried to explain this as best I could, but if you want to you can ask for clarifications, because now I realise it might be a bit convoluted. ;-)


 * I agree. Also, it's important to note that, politics aside, the Rock Against Bush project made a damn good album. On a more serious note, I don't think that it failed at all. I mean, just because Bush won the election doesn't mean that action should no longer be taken against George Bush (this is strictly IMO), and I wonder why the Rock Against Bush project hasn't done anything to that end. Atinoda 22:14, 2 January 2006 (UTC)


 * These albums had a big impact on a lot of people and they took down opposition fairly quickly. This seems to be a start, not only with large support for the Democratic party, but for people like NOFX who are saying that there are 'punks' like them who are not anarchists, simply spitting on the rules.


 * Thinly-veiled right-wing statement of "controversy" ("liberal talking points" indeed). Reference to conservative punk (what?!) reaction that probably never happened. Some other punks complaining about the show being too political. This Criticism section is rather limp, don't you think? Mr Rubino 05:11, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

Conservative Punks?
Really? Does such a thing really exist in the U.S.? (Other than maybe one or two people.) Do you have conservative punk bands? I've never heard of anybody/anything in the U.K. that could be called 'conversative punk' anyway. Though T. Blair did once use 'If The Kids Are United' as a backing tune (New Labour = Conservative here, IMHO.)


 * Dude are you kidding? There're like twelve dudes in my class who're in a conservative punk band. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.227.95.138 (talk) 19:42, 28 November 2008 (UTC)

Johnny Ramone was a staunch conservative. A lot of the early punks were obviously anarchists. The embrace of the center-Left "establishment" is more of a modern trend starting with commercial bands like Green Day in the mid-90's. Note there are a lot of fringe right neo-nazi punks as well, fwiw.

Toby Keith
This is a joke right? Yeah, i think it is considering he supported bush's second run...Д narchistPig (talk)