Talk:Rock Band (video game)/Archive 2

Mic
can some one put up a picture of the mic that will be used in the game? that would be really usefull, thanx.Krazy lover boy09 13:37, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

Star Girl
Please stop adding Star Girl by McFly to the article. It's not on the game, and never will be. Probably. Dragonscales 17:24, 1 November 2007 (UTC)


 * Thankyou. And yes you should put a picture of the mic on this page please and thankyou. StarGirl. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.54.108.81 (talk) 18:57, 4 December 2007 (UTC)


 * 71.54.108.81, please make replies to comments UNDER another user's comment (NOT inside another's comment). It confuses everyone when you add something to someone's comment that they didn't put in themselves, especially if the text added is a reply to the comment. Also, sign your posts by typing 4 tildes ( ~ ) lightsup55 ( T | C ) 00:58, 5 December 2007 (UTC)

Sgt. Peppers?
I see that Sgt. Peppers by The Beatles is under Downloadable content, but the reference doesn't say anything about The Beatles. Is this false info or what? If The Beatles were in the game, I would have to buy it... —Preceding unsigned comment added by -000 (talk • contribs) 02:53, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

No downloadable content has been announced for The Beatles yet. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.45.66.201 (talk) 14:02, 3 December 2007 (UTC)

Sweet
Which song is in the game? Ballroom Blitz or Fox on the Run? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.15.149.64 (talk) 10:47, 2 November 2007 (UTC)


 * Ballroom Blitz. 100%. Also, could the person adding BYOB please stop. Dragonscales 17:47, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

Bonus Songs
I don't think some of those Bonus songs belong there. No sources, do you think they should be removed? -Koryr 19:10, 3 November 2007 (UTC)


 * Yep, done so. No source = not official. Dragonscales 19:26, 3 November 2007 (UTC)

Bang Camaro was confirmed (i.e. look at the official website for a change), so stop removing it! Y2kcrazyjoker4 02:03, 4 November 2007 (UTC)


 * A moot point now, considering the setlist has been shown, but rockband.com did not (and at the time of writing, still does not) show Pleasure Pleasure as a track, from what I can see. Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong. Dragonscales 20:03, 4 November 2007 (UTC)


 * EDIT: My mistake, found it now. Apologies. Dragonscales 20:06, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

Not Compatable with Guitar Hero 3
--Twistboy 06:50, 6 November 2007 (UTC)

The Stratocaster controller for Rock Band is not compatible with Guitar Hero 3. Source: Story from 1up.com

ps2 WILL HAVE A USB hub


This confirms the ps2 USB hub,And that the ps2 instruments will work for the ps3.

(Wes jett2008 00:50, 9 November 2007 (UTC))

Rock Band is not available for the PS2 version. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.45.66.201 (talk) 19:03, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Wrong. Rock Band was released on the 18th as is mentioned in the article AJ Letson (talk) 18:38, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

Compatibility Chart
I added a compatibility chart to make it easier to understand. Will the Rock Band guitar be compatible with Guitar Hero II? I haven't seen anything either way, so maybe we should put "Unknown". Kcurley 01:29, 10 November 2007 (UTC)

Nevermind Confirmed.
Dan Teasdale confirms it in a new interview.
 * We were able to get The Who, which we never were able to get before, we were able to get the whole of “Nevermind” from Nirvana, which was way beyond our expectations and is incredibly awesome.

BathTub 16:08, 10 November 2007 (UTC)

yes this is true i read that last night! cant wait —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.54.72.43 (talk) 17:39, 10 November 2007 (UTC)


 * Added, though status of master vs cover is unknown. --M ASEM 18:09, 10 November 2007 (UTC)

Actually there was a mention of something to the effect of "theres nothing like editing kurt cobain's guitar part's to fit in the game" or somthing like that in one of the harmonix blogs.If they could get the whole album chances are its going to be masters.

(Wes jett2008 06:50, 11 November 2007 (UTC))

Soundtrack article?
Since the soundtrack has been getting kind of big, and it will only get bigger, a separate article just for the soundtrack might be a good idea.

69.122.79.5 15:44, 11 November 2007 (UTC)


 * I agree, kind of like the way the Guitar Hero soundtrack pages are set up would be nice. Tabor 03:03, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
 * See the section a few down. We agreed that it will be split upon the game's release. Oren0 04:00, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

""Unsuccessfully Coping with the Natural Beauty of Infidelity" – Type O Negative" is added to the main set list, but I don't see it in a source anywhere. Could someone provide one or remove it? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.176.158.255 (talk) 17:15, 11 November 2007 (UTC)


 * "Someone who just likes to make stupid edits" by The Vandalisms more than likely added it. It's a joke. Get it? But seriously, I think he/she just wanted to add stupid stuff to article. lightsup55 20:44, 11 November 2007 (UTC)

Cities
I'm not a regular Wikipedian, so I don't have access to change the article. However, I have compiled a list of the 17 in-game cities (proved true in a couple videos), and I was wondering if there was enough merit to this list to be added into the article.


 * Boston
 * New York
 * Chicago
 * Los Angeles
 * San Francisco
 * Seattle
 * Sydney
 * Tokyo
 * Moscow
 * Amsterdam
 * Berlin
 * Paris
 * Rome
 * London
 * Stockholm
 * Reykjavik
 * Rio de Janeiro —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.113.38.83 (talk) 17:37, 12 November 2007 (UTC)
 * done  abarry   ✓ 05:14, 27 November 2007 (UTC)
 * This information is not really necessary - there's no unique aspects about the cities beyond the fact that the venues are placed in different cities. --M ASEM 05:33, 27 November 2007 (UTC)

Split soundtrack into its own article?
As the soundtrack continues to grow with DLC, and as the release date approaches, it seems that we should follow the lead of Guitar Hero III: Legends of Rock and split the soundtrack into its own article for the sake of brevity. I've added the appropriate template to the article, but I'd like to build consensus before making the move. Thoughts? Oren0 22:21, 12 November 2007 (UTC)


 * That was done AFTER the release of Guitar Hero III: Legends of Rock to help ease the need to check 2 different articles for vandalism and non-verifiable information being added. Sure the list will grow (especially with downloadable content), but until the game is released, it is alot easier to kept the main article and soundtrack together. lightsup55 22:27, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

I'm gonna have to agree with lightsup, I didn't like this move with either of the previous guitar hero games and having the chance to fight it now, I will. I think this might be okay after the game is released, but until then (even though all songs have been announced) it is a convienience for people looking for game info to not have to redirect to another article for pertinent information. Wikidaily2 23:39, 12 November 2007 (UTC)


 * After the game is out, the split can be considered. (If someone wants to sandbox the list and have it ready to put into place, that's fine). --M ASEM  01:52, 13 November 2007 (UTC)


 * I don't understand why the game's release is relevant given that all the songs have been announced already. Oren0 03:10, 13 November 2007 (UTC)


 * It's not uncommon for people interested in music games to check out the set list prior to release. It is easier to get a sense of the game as a whole with everything kept in one article. After the game is released, then it will be more appropriate to move the set list to another page where it will not be seen as easily. The release date is less than a week away so it shouldn't be too big of a deal to wait. Doctor Septopia 07:23, 13 November 2007 (UTC)


 * Also, there may be a tier listing or the like that, unlike GH3, there's been no word how it splits out. It only makes sense to break out to a list of songs when we know how those songs are presented to the user to make the article as useful as possible. --M ASEM  14:08, 13 November 2007 (UTC)


 * The tiering system has been released (see IGN's video preview) and it's complicated enough that I anticipate we won't delve into it at all for fear of WP:GAMEGUIDE. In a nutshell, there are cities with set lists, some of which are just lists of songs, some are local bands, some are secret, and some are single songs.  Set lists/cities don't necessarily have to be done in a specific order, and they're a problem for us because songs are repeated in several set lists.  I think it would be overkill to list every song that's in every set list in every city.  The only real distinction I anticipate we'll make is between regular and bonus songs, but we do that already.  I still don't get the argument about people visiting the article to see the list of songs, because they'll do that after the game is released as well.  But since there's consensus against splitting for now I'll remove the split tag from the article. Oren0 18:00, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

As I posted in a recent discussion section, I think the information in this news release warrants a split. There's more information about the downloadable content now than needs to be in the main article, and it'd be nice if it was in its own article rather than not on Wikipedia at all. I don't understand why you would need to wait until the game is released to split the information... if the information is bulky enough that it deserves to stand on its own in an article, then that should be that. Pele Merengue 09:52, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

Is it possible/permissible to split the main article into smaller pieces. All of the paragraphs in this article are a little lengthy. I am suggesting an article for the playlist, a seperate article for the DLC, and an article for each of the different peripherials. As the article reads now it is just too thorough. I like to feel like I'm seeing a lot of real estate when browsing.

Remember the starving kid in Africa needs our links to eat, let us start by making this article fully compliant with WIKI:LINKBOMBINGSOBS —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.251.210.161 (talk) 05:09, 25 November 2007 (UTC)


 * No, this is not a good idea.  While we do use Summary style to break larger articles into smaller ones, the breaks have to leave articles that should stand on their own.  The soundtrack itself qualifies, but the other parts you suggest really don't work out well: an article for each instrument is way overkill, and even a separate article for the instruments would make them lose their context from the main article as well as having the main article lose something.  DLC and other soundtrack aspects are explained in more detail on the songlist page, but these are just summary points.  The development seciton, now that the game is out, is where some trimming can be done, as we don't have to talk about such-and-such news prior to release, and now can focus that on what was known as the game got closer to release. --M ASEM  06:34, 25 November 2007 (UTC)

Expanded compatibility matrix
I felt that Rock Band/Guitar Hero controller compatibility was complex enough over 6 platforms to warrant it's own article. Guitar Controller Compatibility It might be useful to link to or draw from. NZLion 02:15, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

NEW DLC INFO AND ITS GOOD!
At gamespot.com they released info on the pricing, metallica songs, and the weeks they will come out. So go look at it and put it in the rock band wikipedia site. It has alot of info on dlc —Preceding unsigned comment added by Peachpunker63 (talk • contribs) 03:00, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

List of songs in Rock Band
I'm considering editing the list article from a redirect to include the tracklisting. Now that GameSpot has revealed the pricing structure and release dates of the downloadable content tracks, there's a lot of relevant information that would just look like overkill in the main article. If anyone objects, please discuss it here. Pele Merengue 09:33, 15 November 2007 (UTC)


 * See "Split soundtrack into its own article?" for discussion on this subject. lightsup55 09:40, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

New DLC info should be added.
http://www.gamespot.com/news/6182927.html?tag=topslot;title;1&om_act=convert&om_clk=topslot

Prices for DLC, confirmation of covers/non-covers, songs, etc. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.195.75.30 (talk) 09:37, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

Drums and Mic
no one has said anything about the mic and drums being compatable with PS3, Xbox, PS2, and the computer verion. will you have to buy one for all the versions or will one work for all?Krazy lover boy09 14:29, 15 November 2007 (UTC)
 * The microphones are just standard USB mics that should work on any platform. The drums probably will not be compatible across multiple platforms, since each has a custom joypad in the middle and each is mapped to different buttons for gameplay purposes (it's the same way the guitar works). BTW, there is no PC version of Rock Band. Y2kcrazyjoker4 14:58, 15 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Yes, I can verify that the microphone is a generic Logitech USB mike that should work across platforms and on PC. KyuzoGator (talk) 19:02, 21 November 2007 (UTC)

thanks, for the info. Krazy lover boy09 19:28, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

i work at l&m muisic an i was toold it will be out for wii in 2008 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.180.8.114 (talk) 06:46, 16 November 2007 (UTC)
 * That is not reliable at all. While a Wii version is confirmed, no date has been set. Doshindude 16:13, 16 November 2007 (UTC)
 * All you dudes are dead wrong. NOTHING... repeat... NOTHING has been confirmed for the Wii. Y2kcrazyjoker4 (talk) 15:04, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

The Xbox 360 Guitar is not wireless
In the table its says wireless but i thought they said the guitar was wired for the xbox 360 version.


 * The table does say that it is wired... -- Tabor (talk) 21:57, 16 November 2007 (UTC)


 * The guitar in the first shipment is wired. EA/Harmonix will be offering a wireless Strat controller early in 2008. KyuzoGator (talk) 20:27, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

Will there be a singleplayer?
Or will you have to have a party when you want to play it? :/ 72.192.54.23 (talk) 12:07, 19 November 2007 (UTC)


 * This is not a forum for discussion. IGN.com has videos stating that you can play any instrument but bass guitar by your self in SOLO carrer mode. sorry for the sarcasm. Krazy lover boy09 (talk) 14:17, 19 November 2007 (UTC)


 * I don't have a source, but I did play the demo at my local Best Buy. Just like Guitar Hero, there is a Quick Play option so that you can play by yourself. However, the Quick Play option in Rock Band allows you play a song by yourself using any instrument (guitar, drums, or microphone). Oh and if you are looking for a forum to ask questions like these in the future, go to ScoreHero.com. lightsup55 (talk) 14:29, 19 November 2007 (UTC)


 * Try reading the article next time before asking a dumb question. Y2kcrazyjoker4 (talk) 15:05, 19 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Come on joker, don't bite the newcomers. No need for namecalling. Oren0 (talk) 00:13, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

Sam, Is it on ps2
I don't feel like signing in right now but can i have a link to a site where you can order it on the ps2 (by the way can i have a few sites other then Ebay just to confirm76.178.121.182 (talk) 01:32, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

Possible Shortages
Saw an article this morning from home about Best Buy shortages - some people showed up at midnight to get nothing. It was on "Addict3d" I believe. I can't access the site from here at work though to send the link. I also don't know if that type of thing is Encyclopeidic or not. A note though: I tried to find more and this and noticed GameStop said pre-orders will be filled, but no other sales until 2008. Also, there seems to be some sort of alliance that has formed with EA and GameStop...maybe leaving Best Buy in the dust with very few copies of this game...and maybe future games? Just a geeky conspiracy theory, wanted to get this info out in case it's relevant. If not, please disregard, thanks all! --Scottymoze (talk) 14:03, 20 November 2007 (UTC) P.S. - and again, my apologies for lack of sources...can't really access anything from here at work.
 * Bundles are going for about $300 on eBay, which is the usual sign that we're looking at shortages for the Christmas season. KyuzoGator (talk) 15:52, 21 November 2007 (UTC)

The reason for the so-called "shortages" are as thus: Harmonix was playing the market. By which I mean, they released few units of Rock Band. By releasing few units, they could drive up demand, and at the same time, see how well their units sell and see how much they can('t) cash in. If the release is a success then they will have regretted not releasing more units, but if few of the special editions are sold, then they would not have lost quite as much money upon release. After all, you're selling this 30-pound box for $170... if it doesn't sell well and you sent out a lot of units, there'd be no chance at a Rock Band 2... or any future endeavors by Harmonix for that matter. BurningAfterTheDawn (talk) 06:42, 24 November 2007 (UTC)

info.

 * didn't the game come out today? why hasn't anyone changed the release date to RELEASED DATE? and why hasn't anyone started talking about the game yet? feel free to delete this section, because it's not contributing to rock band. thanks for reading.Krazy lover boy09 (talk) 14:11, 20 November 2007 (UTC)


 * It is only 10:00 AM (at least in the East Coast of the U.S. that is). Besides, Wikipedia is NOT a forum or message board. If you are looking for a forum or message board, go to RockBand.com and click "Community" OR the Rock Band forums on ScoreHero.com.


 * Oh and "released date" just doesn't sound right to me for some reason. Just worry about whether or not the article say something like "Rock Band is a future game to be released..." or anything else that is future tense, which I believe has already been done by someone else.


 * I also fixed your post. For the future, type 1 colon before your text instead of a space. For example:


 *  :And this is my reply... ~ 


 * If you were to reply to my reply, you'd type 2 colons:


 *  ::And this is my reply to your reply... ~ 


 * lightsup55 (talk) 16:02, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

Someone should recheck spelling
The most glaring one I found was Most critics have commended of the game's group gameplay, ... in the Reception portion. It would make more sense if it read Most critics have commented on the game's group gameplay, ... There might be a few more but I'm not a wiki editor type person but figured this might help you guys out. 168.170.186.52 (talk) 18:39, 20 November 2007 (UTC)AbsolutLush

Remove the "of" in the sentence and it has more meaning. I think the message is that the critics are stating their approval.

Guitar controller compatibility up for deletion.
See Articles for deletion/Guitar controller compatibility.

I thought I'd post notice here since that article was spun out of this one and some of the regular editors of this page might not be watching it. Feel free to participate in the discussion if you're so inclined. Additionally, if that page is deleted, we need to reconsider how, if at all, controller compatibility info will be discussed on this page. Oren0 (talk) 04:59, 21 November 2007 (UTC)
 * The article was deleted yesterday. I voted to delete, but the overwhelming majority wanted to keep it.  I know Wikipedia isn't a democracy, but on the other hand I don't really like the unilateral way this seems to have been done. KyuzoGator (talk) 20:54, 27 November 2007 (UTC)

Are we ready for a criticisms/issues section yet?
The loud, hollow thumping of the drum heads and the incompatibilty of the GH3 Les Paul on the PS3 come to mind. KyuzoGator (talk) 15:54, 21 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Ah, it's already been deleted for being "original research." So I guess I'll play the Wiki Game and ignore the hundreds of complaints on the rockband.com message boards and wait for the eventual citable article to come out in a few days.  KyuzoGator (talk) 19:45, 21 November 2007 (UTC)

Is Rock Band keysounded?
It's clear that the game features the master tracks. However, what is the format of the instrumentation? How are the songs tracked per instrument? Are the songs keysounded? Did the game move away from the Stepmania-like format, and fall more into the Beatmania style?

I know that way back when, it was one of those things on Red Octane/Harmonix's to-do list to implement keysounding. And since Harmonix finally picked up master recordings, did they go ahead and keysound the songs? I can't seem to find any information on this. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.48.40.133 (talk) 10:03, 22 November 2007 (UTC)

Broken Accessories
I think there needs to be a paragraph in the criticisms section about cheaply made/easily breakable the peripherals are. There are tons of complaints about the guitars having broken strum bars and clunky buttons, while many people are having clunky/broken drum pads and their kick pedals are breaking in half. There are tons of people who are reporting demo guitars (you know, like the ones the put out for people to try the games at Wal-Mart and similar stores) that are broken and Best Buy has had to send many of them back.

There are also complaints about the fact that the Guitar Hero III controllers don't work for the PS3 version of the game, even though many reviewers said that they would be (although this might be a result of the fact that the XBox 360 versions do). Harmonix released a statement about this being Activision's fault because Guitar Hero III controllers don't comply with open standards like the Rock Band controllers do, and the fact that Rock Band controllers don't work on Guitar Hero III is because Activision specifically designed the game to only detect Guitar Hero III controllers. While this is certainly Activision's right to do so, it should be noted that this is a PS3 only problem as Microsoft requires all companies to use open standards and so these issues are nonexistent for XBox 360 users.

The article about the Statement is here http://ps3.ign.com/articles/836/836950p1.html

This is really important because there will not be individually sold guitars (or any other peripheral) until February, which means PS3 users will not be able to play with a full four players unless they buy two bundle packs.

There have also been complaints relating to the fact that Bands must chose a Leader that must play in every performance, causing problems with users wanting to continue progress after their bandmate has become otherwise occupied.

And finally, there have also been complaints about the fact that while playing in the Solo Tour mode or while playing Band World Tour without a full line up, the computer creates a random character to fill the role, rather than selecting (or allowing users to select) from the list of already created player characters. This has been criticized because often the computer makes a player that "just doesn't fit in" with the rest of the band, i.e. the players have created classic rockers but the computer members are punks or glam rockers, etc. Grant.alpaugh (talk) 11:10, 23 November 2007 (UTC)


 * Most of these are complaints I have seen (the issue of the PS3 GH3 Controller not working is already cited under the peripherals section) but likely because yesterday was a holiday, there haven't been any major news reports that confirm what is only seen in forums, so we can't add those other details yet. Maybe today there will be some.  --M ASEM  14:58, 23 November 2007 (UTC)


 * I don't own the game myself (yet), but I do agree that this should be added to the article (especially since you have provided a reliable and verifiable source). And here is the reference code you need in the article: lightsup55 ( T | C ) 15:07, 23 November 2007 (UTC)


 * I say add a part about the strum bars losing their effect due to heavy playing (happened to mine just yesterday), but the rest of the stuff that Grant stated has not been addressed by the public yet (sounds OR/his own opinion to me). Blacklist (talk) 19:35, 23 November 2007 (UTC)


 * Also note that a second recurring problem appears to be that the bass drum pedal has a habit of breaking. This seems confirmed in earnest by the countless threads about it in the official Rock Band forum. Kyouryuu (talk) 08:11, 26 November 2007 (UTC)


 * I personally have had issues with the drums - songs like "Run to the Hills" have fast 16th notes and although I play the parts perfectly, trying both rolls and single sticking, the pads will NOT register a lot of the notes. I tried messing with lag to no avail.  I had this issue on two different sets of the game on two different home theaters.  I don't have a source for this though, but I'll look around to see if it's a common thing. --Scottymoze (talk) 15:53, 26 November 2007 (UTC)


 * You're probably not rocking hard enough. Try rocking harder with your hands, but be careful not to rock too hard with your foot, or you will break the pedal. 134.29.6.7 (talk) 22:07, 26 November 2007 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the reply!! I don't want to make this a mini-forum thread...but basically I've tried playing ultra hard all the way down to ultra soft...like pianissimo and fortissimo and everywhere in between.  Playing ultra soft actually registers more of the notes.  The encyclopedic note here is that there is a lot of talk on the XBOX.com forums about this issue with the drums not registering all of the notes, as well as the strum bar issue and the foot pedal breaking.  I think the peripherals are just not uber-durable and there's a ton of types of hardcore players in the real world that they didn't take into account when testing.  It's kind of sad that my drumsticks get more bounce off of my kitchen table than the drum pads.  If I find any news articles on the peripheral issues I'll post here.  Thanks again, --Scottymoze (talk) 14:38, 28 November 2007 (UTC)

X-Play Review
Rock Band gets a 5.....out of 5 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.163.161.227 (talk) 01:43, 25 November 2007 (UTC)

Guitar Hero guitars for PS2
Is there any confirmation on the Guitar Hero guitars being compatible for the PS2 version of Rock Band? If there is, let me know. Thanks.71.7.106.244 (talk) 01:24, 28 November 2007 (UTC)

PS2 Release Date
The PS2 release date is wrong. It ships on December 11, 2007, not December 18. See www.1up.com. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Amit471195 (talk • contribs) 16:11, 28 November 2007 (UTC)
 * 1up is wrong. We're citing the official site. --Maxamegalon2000 18:30, 28 November 2007 (UTC)

The source that is listed for the ps2 release date says this: "The surprise twist? The PS2 version of “Rock Band,” once thought to be scheduled for 2008, will actually ship this year. The full PS2 package ships December 10 for $159.99." —Preceding unsigned comment added by 141.149.240.29 (talk) 03:38, 29 November 2007 (UTC)

Fair use rationale for Image:Rockband-guitar.jpg
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BetacommandBot (talk) 17:02, 29 November 2007 (UTC)

GA/FA time?
I think we've done good on keeping this article up to high quality throughout the pre-release stages and followups - refs are formatted and look appropriate. Any reason we shouldn't try to bring this guy up to FA status with a stopover at GA to catch anything major? --M ASEM 17:34, 30 November 2007 (UTC)

"Music controller standard"
There is a lot of talk about the "Music controller standard" Harmonix utilizes in their hardware and software to make all Guitar Hero guitars compatible with RockBand, but not vice versa. What is this standard? Where can I find info about that standard?

Also, if that standard exists: Can 360 Rockband-Controllers be used on PS3, PS2 and vice versa? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.245.180.131 (talk) 17:13, 3 December 2007 (UTC)


 * An "open controller standard" refers to controllers mapping buttons in the same exact way (every controller uses ABXY the same way, etc). I don't know where you are getting the idea of cross-console compatibility, but controllers are pretty much specific to the console they were made for (and this is the way it has always been). The only exception you're gonna find is some overlap between PlayStation peripherals. Y2kcrazyjoker4 22:42, 3 December 2007 (UTC)

European Release Date
The European release date was confirmed today for March 8, 2008. I'm pretty much a n00b when it comes to editing articles, so if someone could change the date, and put the reference from the site below in, I'd really appreciate it.

http://www.rewiredmind.com/opinionated/rock-band-gets-european-date/ —Preceding unsigned comment added by MightyJordan (talk • contribs) 21:28, 5 December 2007 (UTC)

Ignoring that it says March 6th, not March 8th, the site lists "An EA insider has confirmed to RewiredMind.com" as the source. That's a rumor at best. No press release from Harmonix, EA or MTV Games yet, I'm reversing it to Q1 2008. PatrickS2 (talk) 10:13, 8 December 2007 (UTC)


 * The following discussion is archived. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section.

✅ Done - consensus to move, 7 to 3, and per WP:PRECISION. Neıl ☎  11:45, 14 December 2007 (UTC)

Requested move
Rock Band → Rock Band (video game) — WP:PRECISION recommends "adding a parenthetical (bracketed) disambiguator to the page name: for instance when both spellings are often or easily confused." In this case, only capitalization separates Rock band and Rock Band. —Mika1h (talk) 19:23, 6 December 2007 (UTC)

Survey

 * Feel free to state your position on the renaming proposal by beginning a new line in this section with  or  , then sign your comment with  . Since polling is not a substitute for discussion, please explain your reasons, taking into account Wikipedia's naming conventions.


 * Oppose I'm inclined to think that anyone looking for the article on the game will surely capitalize "Band", and anyone looking for the article on the concept surely won't, thus avoiding any confusion.  Or maybe that's just me. --Maxamegalon2000 20:15, 6 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Comment I think that's a poor assumption. People will capitalize looking for bands and keep lower case looking for this.  I really think the best solution is what is currently proposed at rock band.  Merge that page into rock music, then all capitalizations redirect to this page with a dab link on top (like now) to rock music. Oren0 (talk) 01:03, 7 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Oppose I agree with Oren0 to merge rock band with rock music, then all capitalizations redirect to this page with a dab link on top (like now) to rock music. lightsup55  ( T | C ) 01:30, 7 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Comment OK, I can agree with that. --Mika1h (talk) 16:18, 7 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Agree* When I type something into wikipedia, i don't worry about the caps being on or off.  What I ususaly do is just type in "rock band video game".  Whenever I type in "rock band", it brings me to the musical page, not the game.  Tabor (talk) 20:02, 7 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Support the listed proposal or User:Oren0's idea "to merge rock band with rock music, then all capitalizations redirect to this page with a dab link on top (like now) to rock music." —  AjaxSmack   04:31, 8 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Oppose I agree with Maxamegalon2000. If anyone is looking for the game itself they certainly will capitalize "Band". MightyJordan (talk) 09:45, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Support I just type in Rock band game. that's how i get here. i say leave it as it is. Krazy lover boy09 (talk) 14:06, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Support Who actually cares about correctness of caps and lowercase letters when they use the search box? I certainly use all lowercase, which can prove to be problematic. I think it is extremely misleading and incorrect to rely on the capitalization of one letter to redirect to the correct article, when you could simply put a label at the end of the article title (i.e. (video game) ) to clarify what the article is about. This shouldn't be about what the most popular method of getting to the Rock Band article is - it's about what is logically correct to do. Y2kcrazyjoker4 (talk) 17:04, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Support "Rock band" (as in the group) and "Rock Band" (the video game) are two dissimilar topics, and while "Rock band" has been redirected to "rock music", adding the "(video game)" further helps to disambiguate between the two possible topics. --M ASEM 17:23, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

Discussion

 * Any additional comments:

The article should be changed to "Rock Band (video game)" as that is the standard formatting. 134.29.6.7 (talk) 22:05, 12 December 2007 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section.

spike TV awards
Gotta run here, but noting that RB won 2 awards, as well as HMX as best devs at the spike tv awards. . I'll add later if not already done --M ASEM 22:04, 8 December 2007 (UTC)

Metacritics
It said it is the 3rd highest rated game according to metacritics...last time I checked (5 sec ago) its the 7th highest game  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.33.149.155 (talk) 01:55, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Games #3-7 all have the same score. They are then sub-ranked alphabetically. Technically, they are all 3rd. And any score below 94 immmediately starts at 8th place..... which is why I said tied for 3rd. Y2kcrazyjoker4 (talk) 18:35, 10 December 2007 (UTC)

sales
 How did Rock Band do," she added. "Rock Band sold 382K units across the 360 and PS3 platforms. MahangaTalk 04:44, 14 December 2007 (UTC)

Ps2 sales
The game has already come out (for game only at least) at my local walmart. Did they put it out early or something? I saw it today but it may have been there sooner. frogTape: Covered in flies for your enjoyment (talk) 02:36, 15 December 2007 (UTC)

Requested page protection (2007-12-15)
This is starting to get ridiculous. Anyway... I have made a request for page protection at Requests for page protection (or simply: "WP:RFPP") due to high level of IP vandalism. Should be fulfilled shortly. lightsup55 ( T | C ) 00:34, 16 December 2007 (UTC)

GA thoughts

 * I think the stolen Rock Band copies should be included somewhere in the article, as it isn't every day that some thieves ambush a truck and steal all of the copies of the game.
 * Second, the reception section is very vague, phrases like "critics say"; that whole paragraph doesn't specifically cite any reviews on who exactly said what. hbdragon88 (talk) 08:26, 23 December 2007 (UTC)

PS2?
I've looked all over for the PS2 bundle, but I was told by many store officials that the release date was postponed into early '08. I don't think this article is current. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.185.240.34 (talk) 20:59, 26 December 2007 (UTC)


 * I got mine last week. --Maxamegalon2000 21:59, 26 December 2007 (UTC)

DLC Link???
I don't know what happened or if my computer is being retarded but the link to the DLC page just goes to regular songs page. Can someone fix plz. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.89.10.163 (talk) 22:04, 27 December 2007 (UTC)