Talk:Rockstar Lincoln

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Some people don't know where Lincoln is..
@IceWelder, I see that you reverted my simple, helpful edit of "Lincoln" to "Lincoln, England". While you may know that Lincoln is in England because, as you said in the page history, the same sentence mentions that the company is British, that does not automatically convey to everyone in the English-speaking world that the company is in Lincoln, England as opposed to a possible Lincoln, Scotland, Lincoln, Wales or Lincoln, Northern Ireland. It would be like saying the company is a "US-based company, in Portland." Is that referring to Portland, Maine or Portland, Oregon? I would wager that most Britains would not know. While every British school child probably knows there is only one Lincoln in all of the UK, I cannot see why it is so terrible to leave that distinction in the prose since it is not redundant but actually more indicative. I would recommend that you change "British" to "English" or add the ",England" back to "Lincoln". As "British" is more appropriate for the cultural context, adding the geographical context of ",England" makes more sense. Jyg (talk) 19:57, 5 November 2022 (UTC)
 * There are no towns called "Lincoln" in Scotland, Wales, or Nothern Ireland. See Lincoln.  Spy-cicle💥   Talk? 20:35, 5 November 2022 (UTC)
 * @Spy-cicle Correct, there is not. But, there might be. How a simple effort to provide a universally comprehensible, convenient and instant disambiguation can be considered so offensive defies reason. But, by all means, enjoy your tiny kingdom -- of this article, that is. Jyg (talk) 07:00, 6 November 2022 (UTC)
 * "enjoy your tiny kingdom -- of this article, that is" — one thing's for sure, few editors are going to take you or your suggestions seriously with an attitude like that, nor with extreme hyperbole like "so offensive". – Rhain  ☔ (he/him) 09:02, 6 November 2022 (UTC)
 * My "suggestion" was not being taken seriously from the moment I submitted the change. The resistance to it has nothing to do with my attitude. Nor does it have anything to do with whether or not it is appropriate to add ",England" despite the sentence already having "British". The history page of this short article of little consequence is riddle with reverts. The case was closed the moment someone other than those who have the time and will to control this tiny kingdom found someone else making an edit.  If you have ever wondered why academia does not trust Wikipedia, you will find that dynamic at the top of the list. Jyg (talk) 16:07, 6 November 2022 (UTC)
 * "Riddled with reverts" is an interesting way to say that your edit is the first to be reverted on this article in the last 28 months (and only the 15th revert in its 15-year, 300+ edit history—at least a third of which were vandalism). You may have actually had a point with your original suggestion per MOS:OL, but you've derailed your own discussion with a nonsensical, bad faith rant. And I think you'll find that WP:WINARS and * WP:CW describes academia's mistrust of Wikipedia much more accurately than whatever "dynamic" you're referring to. Take care. – Rhain  ☔ (he/him) 23:14, 6 November 2022 (UTC) (* scratch that, just WP:CW ☔)
 * @Rhain The riddling is across all the Rockstar related pages, not just this one; mostly by IceWelder. I will take your accusation of "rant" and raise you "a self-congratulatory overuse of Wikipedia acronyms". Yes, please, take care. Jyg (talk) 02:25, 7 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Somehow I doubt you meant "all the Rockstar related pages" when you said "this short article of little consequence", but in any case, has done incredible work maintaining all of these articles, keeping the vandalism away and the guidelines in check, so for that I'm thankful. If you genuinely believe the use of two "Wikipedia acronyms" (of two very similar explanatory essays) constitutes "a self-congratulatory overuse", then I suppose I have little else to add (lest I accidentally pat myself on the back even more). –  Rhain  ☔ (he/him) 03:19, 7 November 2022 (UTC) Eye open font awesome.svg