Talk:Rodney Graham

POV and tone issues
Thanks for taking a crack at cleanup, Runcorn. I think the article needs a lot more help.

There's still some POV problems -- or maybe some different kind of tone problems here.

The first sentence is a doozy: "Rodney Graham is one of the main proponents of 'feminophotoconceptualism', the brand of conceptual art that has made Vancouver, British Columbia an important city for global art since the mid-to-late 1980s.".

Is Rodney Graham a proponent, or an artist? I think she might be a photographer. Or maybe a performance artist, or maybe a costume designer. Why not come out and clearly say what it is, exatcly, that this person does?

If I search the web for 'feminophotoconceptualism', I get exactly one hit: this article. If this is a movement, then I'd expect lots of hits. "Postmodernism" gets about 3.4 million hits on Yahoo!. If it has put Vancouver on the map for two decades, then I'd expect it to be more verifiable.

There's other neologisms in the article: "no-wave", for example.

How can this artist be "most widely known" for a list of four or five different things? "Most" is a superlative, and you only get one of them.

The balance of the article isn't encyclopedic. The over-reliance on quotes is probably the biggest issue.

-- Mikeblas 22:48, 18 February 2006 (UTC)

Gender and vandalism
This article had been vandalized. It should be noted that Rodney Graham is not a woman. The gender was changed, likely as a critique of the artist. I have corrected for the most obvious incorrect statements (his gender, the term 'feminophotoconceptualism', the section on fashion was also suspect. Leviathanbus 08:21, 21 February 2006 (UTC)

Full of deliberate errors
Rodney Graham is a man, not a woman. What is a feminoconceptualist? This term does not exist in art history. The interpretation of his works vis a vis this purported feminism a fabrication.

Fakesalt
If Mr. McLaughlin would please stop mucking with this article, it would make me happy. Seriously, you may not have liked his show at the ICA, but save it for your blog and radio show, or take it up with your profs or something. Leviathanbus 21:44, 14 April 2006 (UTC)

fix
well good to see this has been cleaned up, there is no such thing as 'feminophotoconceptualism' and yes, Graham is a male artist.

POV?
Are we ready to remove the NPOV notice? The article reads fairly well, I think. Leviathanbus 05:27, 18 April 2006 (UTC)


 * The POV might be better, but the writing is still pretty bad. Lots of terms aren'te defined; why is UJ3RKS mentioned so early, if they were so short-lived, and not a focal point for the memebers (per their own article)? What is "pathology of the loop", anyway?  Many of the problems I described on 18 February still exist. -- Mikeblas


 * Point taken as to the UJ3RK5. They were noteable as a concentration of some of Vancouver's most famous artists, and have some bearing on Graham's more recent music work (Volumizer and now the Rodney Graham Band), but you're right - it is mentioned a tad early, though it makes some sense to discuss his early career early in the article. The same is true of the Ian Wallace article, if memory serves. As for the pathology of the loop, I suspect this is a reference to Freud. Vexation Island, one of his better known works, depicts a Robinson Crusoe type character, waking on a beach, walking over to a palm to shake down a coconut, which lands on his head, knocking him unconsious. The coconut rolls away into the ocean and the whole thing repeats. I believe that Graham is interested in how memory can be replaced by repetition in Neurosis. In this sense, it would seem clear that the loop (repetitive behaviour) has a pathology. Leviathanbus 08:55, 1 May 2006 (UTC)

The article is still rather weak. Personally I found "pathology of the loop" to be a rather brillant characterization of one of Rodney Graham's obssessions. I would like to see the term stay and be defined. -- steven 02:03, 13 August 2006 (UTC)]]

"Work" Section
This is essentially an essay and needs to be edited drastically. Perhaps it should be removed altogether and started from scratch--way too much original research. Freshacconci 12:05, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

Removed some items
I'm plunking this here for a while--it reads as original research:

pictures of upside-down trees, obtained by the use of a camera obscura constructed on site, and his appropriation of canonical Donald Judd-like structures as bookshelves of modernist design fixtures. After having worked many years in the upper echelons of European cultural history (with works 'devoted' to Georg Büchner, Richard Wagner, Sigmund Freud and Ferdinand de Saussure), Graham has turned his attention to American popular/folk art of late, and is currently pursuing an intriguing career in pop music. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Freshacconci (talk • contribs) 12:09, 13 April 2007 (UTC).

Removed essay
I'll keep this here for now:

The Aesthetics of Rambling
The film City Self / Country Self is part of a trilogy with Vexation Island, 1997 and How I became a Ramblin’ Man, 1999. The 1999 incarnation of this trilogy embraces the Victorian fascination of the artist with his beloved rock n’ roll music, which formed the texture of his adolescence, growing up in Canada. Graham, although a Canadian, stresses the predominance of American popular cultural all over the world, and his status as a Canadian national gives him a unique betwixt and between perspective of American culture, being of the American language and argot, but slightly distanced from American patriotism and national politics.

All of the recent installations of Graham’s work are supposed to deal “city and country.” (Lisson Gallery, 2004) The external shaping of Graham’s work of the self is what makes his work so emphatically postmodern, as he focuses on the external and surface shifts of the artistic self, rather than internal shifts of consciousness, unlike the beloved Victorians his art is so often in dialogue with. Graham has often taken the study and alteration of classic works of 19th Century culture “as a starting point,” but not so much as an inspiration but as a starting point for the 20th and the 21st century instability of fact and fiction. (Lisson Gallery, 2004) Of his own work, Graham has noted “it may be a burden to re-invent oneself every time, but it makes things more interesting. My method of working comes out of a lack of technique because I did not come out of painting, sculpture or photography. I even dropped out of studying art history. Conceptual art and the tradition, established by artists like Judd, of having your work fabricated by someone else, made what I am doing possible.” As well as fellow artists such as Judd, Graham cites linguistic experts such as Ferdinand de Saussure, whose “book on linguistics to show the arbitrary relation between the so-called signifier and the signified. I was also using a kind of readymade strategy based on the disputable assumption that a photograph is not art but an upside down photo is.” (Spria, 2003)

Growing up, Rodney Graham admits that rather than seeing himself as a stable identity, he “never had a clear vision of myself,” nor did he have a clear vision of who he was as an artist. “Earlier on I was equally interested in becoming a writer. It was the openness of conceptual art and its incorporation of textual and theoretical elements that emerged during the first years of my university education that opened my eyes to various possibilities. Lenz was the first text work I did when I was interested in appropriation as an artistic strategy. I wanted not only to appropriate literary works in an artistic context but to add to them - to interpolate myself into them - as a kind of performance.” (Spira, 2003) However, such a lack of psychological and artistic clarity, in today’s postmodern era of art has proved a strength rather than a detriment to this challenging artist. He is indeed a ramblin’ man in his incarnations, physically in his art works, which depicts his various assumed selves in different areas and fashions of travel, but also he rambles on in the diversity and variety of his works.

Shifting Identity
In Fishing on a Jetty, 2000, Rodney Graham renders himself into his own text as a filmed subject. In this film/performance art piece, the viewer is witness to the sight of Graham playing Cary Grant in his own nautical version of Alfred Hitchcock’s ‘To Catch a Thief.’ Graham, within the context of the piece is himself, is the character of Grant, and is also the persona portrayed by ‘Cary Grant,’ the sublimely artificial romantic lead of the 1930’s classical film in a who-done-it about mistaken identity, a film where the actor portrays a constantly misleading man with a shape-shifting identity.

In much of his work, which straddles the line between film and photography, Graham is both creator and subject, and is constantly exploring the notion of identity. Perhaps this is reflected in another of the artist’s passion, that of the transforming musical textures of modern rock music. In Aberdeen 2000, the artist created a work named after the birthplace of Kurt Cobain, he portrays the deceased rock musician likewise as a celebrity as well as a fellow artist of a different medium. So many young people identified with Cobain, one of the reasons Graham says, for his fascination with the artist as well as his love of Cobain’s music. Perhaps most epically and most characteristically, however, Rodney Graham ‘can also be seen in one of his recent works Victorian dandy. This may seem, on its surface, slightly less surprising, given the artist’s life-long preoccupation with Victoriana. This newest incarnation of the artist in his work is featured a large new video projection work entitled City Self / Country Self, set in Paris in the 1860’s and shows Graham playing two versions of himself, an urban dandy and a provincial rustic. The setup suggests not simply a new take on the familiar myth of the urban and rural mice of the children’s tale “City Mouse and Country Mouse” but again also the nature of Graham’s work, which stresses a perpetual fascination on the part of the artist with the permanent instability of the photographic, filmed self.

Unlike the static visual art of Graham’s contemporary Andy Warhol, Graham’s art stresses the perennial, perpetually changing climate of the modern self. By stressing the self of the artist as well, rather than iconic images or repetition, Graham suggests a perpetual re-conceptualization of the artist in relation to society and to previously existing works of film, as in the Cary Grant persona he adopted in Fishing on the Jetty. The City Self / Country Self sets up a duality of selves on film, as well as a duality of artist and subject matter—the artist’s self is split between subject and creator, between rural and urban. “My film trilogy is based on both personal childhood models and Hollywood stereotypes - 'screen memories', to adapt Freud's term,” the artist said, upon its initial release. (Spira, 2003)

The Lisson gallery promotional material for City Self / Country Self ‘s exhibition in the United States stated, in its own interpretation that the alternate personalities of the artist, filmmaker and photographer assumed in the film represented “two paired particles set for a repeated, cataclysmic encounter played out within the long cinematic tradition of the knockabout gag,” stressing the parodic representation of filmic tropes within the work of the artist. .” (Lisson Gallery, 2004) However, even more significant and remarkable is Graham’s use of his own body and identity in so many of his works, including City Self / Country Self. The title of City Self / Country Self suggests, as is characteristic of Fishing on the Jetty as well, although not explicitly in the title, that the self and the representation of the self is part of the project of the enterprise of the artist. The artist has two selves in the context of the work. But unlike Andy Warhol’s use of iconic images separate from the artist and the self, Graham integrates himself into his works. He does not so in image, as his image is mutable, from the country to the city self, to Cary Grant or Kurt Cobain. But the gazer of the work is always aware that he is looking at a representation of the artist rather than the ‘real thing,’ however seamlessly the real and the false representation may seem to overlap with one another.

Freshacconci 12:12, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

More:

“Rodney Graham,” Lisson Gallery. 2004. Graham, Rodney. MOCA Exhibit and promotional material for “A Little Thought.” 2004. Includes all Graham works cited. Hickey, Dave. “Rodney Graham.” From About place: recent art of the Americas Edited by Madeleine Grynztejn, 2003. Parkett. 2004 Edition for Rodney Graham Exhibition at MOCA, 2004. Spira, Anthony. “Interview with the artist: Rodney Graham.” 2003.

Freshacconci 12:14, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

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