Talk:Roger Sherman

Famous descendants
The Wiki article on James S. Sherman (U.S. Vice-President 1909-1912) states that both he and General William T. Sherman were descended from Roger Sherman -  through which line, they don't say. 86.164.55.251 (talk) 16:51, 8 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Note: Although Roger and William were indeed related they were distant cousins. I will see about adding something along with some information on Roger's father and mother. Otr500 (talk) 10:48, 11 May 2016 (UTC)


 * I'm going to remove the entire unsourced Descendants section for two reasons: WP:NOTGENEALOGY and WP:V.  As it reads, it seems like this paragraph is just a dumping ground of unsourced claims of grandeur for what is probably a very notable family and as such is significantly far from encyclopedic.    That info would be better added (with WP:RS) to a page for Sherman family as other prominent families (Ogle family for example) have been documented.     Toddst1 (talk) 19:56, 30 November 2020 (UTC)
 * ✅ Toddst1 (talk) 18:55, 1 December 2020 (UTC)

Reference issues
There was content added to the Family section that uses a link, https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Henry_L._Stimson&oldid=718930300 that points to an older article version, that in turn uses Find-a-Grave. While I am still a fan of Find A Grave --there are some issues-- in that the site is of the same form as Wikipedia, being anonymously edited, the information is not vetted, and thus there could be erroneous information. Just using it as proof a grave exists might be one thing but with no corroborating source of say a linage, there is still doubt about the information. An editor may have first hand knowledge that a certain grave is a particular grave mentioned in an article (or used as proof) but without some "other proof" that is still OR. Sites like Wikipedia can not be used as a source or reference, which means that pointing to an older version (like it is archieved) would fall under the same category. If information in an older---thus outdated--- version is relevant then it should be considered being revised then using an inline link per policy and guidelines. Otr500 (talk) 10:36, 11 May 2016 (UTC)

Constitutional Convention and Congress

 * In this section, the first paragraph after the block quote, the sentence and a quote: In terms of the executive Sherman had very little interest in giving the executive much authority. Sherman suggested that no constitutional provision needed be made for the executive because it was “nothing more than an institution for carrying he will of the Legislature into effect”. *IF* this is a direct quote from the reference then the error in spelling, "an institution for carrying he will of the Legislature", should be noted, otherwise a correction made.
 * Also: If this is American English there is a part of a sentence; no constitutional provision needed be made, which is customarily written as ''no constitutional provision needed to be made. This is not part of a quote so unless some colloquial English it is not standard. If someone would care to weigh in on this, or with a relevant "exception" I would appreciate it. Otr500 (talk) 01:06, 12 May 2016 (UTC)

Three fifths compromise
Is there a source for this? I'm reading Madison's record of the Convention and I can't see where Sherman says this. Something this big should be sourced and have an inline citation. Richard75 (talk) 22:32, 17 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Agreed. Since it remains unsupported, I will remove it. We can add it back if it can be reliably sourced.  Toddst1 (talk) 18:58, 1 December 2020 (UTC)

Quotation
I'm thinking that the quotation is lacking context and relevance. Perhaps it should be removed and better placed in Wikiquote. Toddst1 (talk) 18:53, 1 December 2020 (UTC)

Article Evaluation
I have written an evaluation for this article. Here is the link to it if anyone is interested. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Matthew.meyers5/Evaluate_an_ArticleMatthew.meyers5 (talk) 04:01, 18 February 2021 (UTC)

The article lists two different places, in different Colonies (now different States), for the birth place of Roger Sherman.
Either Roger Sherman was born in Newton Massachusetts or he was born in Trenton New Jersey - he can not been born in both places, they are many miles apart.2A02:C7E:1CA8:CE00:414B:4BE5:9A5C:EAF8 (talk) 10:57, 13 April 2022 (UTC)

Original Shermans?
Were they from an English family? Do we know anything about the first ones to immigrate? Valetude (talk) 13:50, 15 August 2022 (UTC)