Talk:Rogers Communications/Archives/2013

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This article should include information on the large purchase of a Canadian crown corporation following world war two for around 10% of its market value as a sweetheart deal between Ted Rogers and his federal government clients. Its patents and technological assets became the basis of Rogers telecommunications expansion beyond radio in the post-war period. It was the same transfer of wealth to the rich that created Canada Shipping Lines (owned by Paul Martin Jr.). See Sandford F. Borins, "World War Two Crown Corporations: Their Wartime Role and Peacetime Privatization." Canadian Public Administration, Vol. 25 Iss. 3 (Fall 1982): 380-404.

"The company hit the headlines in 2005 when Hezbollah cloned the mobile phone of chief executive Ted Rogers and of customers.... This came to light when it happened to Toronto professor Susan Drummond..."

This is not actually true, Susan Drummond visited Israel and had her phone stolen. The newspaper that published the article failed to distinguish between that fact and the issue of mobile cloning, which were discussed in the same article. The cloning of executive lines ended in 2001 when the company moved to GSM. Source: http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20051217.wxcellphone1217/BNStory/Technology/

"Ms. Drummond quickly determined what had happened: Someone had stolen her phone while she was away."

The phrase, "..... is founded by Edward S. “Ted” Rogers, Sr. ....." is removed according to this source. Ktsquare (talk) 23:52, 29 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Is there any source for the claims that Rogers is the largest wireless and cable providers in Canada? Otherwise, they should be edited out, IMO. -Duey

According to Wikipedia, bell mobility has 5.3 million subscribers, Togers Wireless has 6.3, and, living in Canada, I see no other competitors, any questions?Tallrichard2 09:25, 28 April 2007 (UTC)


 * Rogers tells us that in training and advertising pamphlets. Nastajus 06:19, 10 January 2006 (UTC)
 * Rogers says a lot of things (to employees and customers) that tend not to be true. They also blatently lie in training about their competition. They're just chalked full of dignity >:C

I know this isn't very encyclopedic, but I'd like to see some information on how Rogers screws just about everyone who uses their products and services. I don't know a single person who hasn't been lied to and cheated out of their money due to Rogers unethical business practices. --66.130.0.153 20:10, 23 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Well now you know one single person that "hasn't been lied to and cheated out of their money due to Rogers unethical business practices". Guess what, it's me! Glad to help. --IceCube 01:19, 7 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Hey 66.13.0.153: If you like add a link to http://www.ihaterogers.ca. If you can find some research or some kind of appropriately sourced article on complaints about rogers, we can put that in too.--FNV 23:55, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

i was cheated by Rogers on bill many times -- eventhough they always had "good" reasons to justify the cheatings -- I still feel cheated. there are just too many tricky on their pricing and billing system. But to better solve the problems, you can all their customer relations department. They will give you better offer when you say "i am cancelling the service."

I have never been cheated out of money. Rogers Customer Service has pissed me off many times, but I can never say that money was how I felt cheated.Tallrichard2 09:27, 28 April 2007 (UTC)

ive paid my bill 6 days ago, and now it appears that i have another $130 to pay. plus they stopped providing bill details 2 months ago. rogers is a synonym of blackmail. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Yanshenghua007 (talk • contribs) 03:43, 22 January 2008 (UTC)

Is there any reason the "fleet services" section is included? it seems pretty trivial and largeley irrellevant to the article. You dont see a similar section in the Microsoft article about what cars they use do you?65.93.160.101 22:57, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

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ROGER FACES YET ANOTHER LAWSUIT check out the link www.mrrogersneighbourhood.ca Everything legal about Rogers Order of Justice Thomson "rogers is not a nice company" then she ordered punitive damages

Assessment
I have assessed this as Start Class, as it contains more detail and organization than would be expected of a Stub, although it requires more referencing and in-line citations. I have assessed this as mid importance, as it plays a strong, but perhaps not vital, role in understanding Canada. Cheers, CP 16:17, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

Why is there a list of the different vehicles in their fleet? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 17.104.94.145 (talk) 16:46, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

Vision, Mission and Value Statements?
This article does not describe or state the organizations Vision, Mission and Value Statements. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.17.167.114 (talk) 04:23, 11 March 2008 (UTC)

Who Wrote This?
This article speaks in a voice incredibly foreign to the encyclopedia style of writing. The bias of authorship in this article makes it seem far too obvious that page-editors are composed too largely of employees/affiliates of ROGERS COMMUNICATIONS, rather than un-affiliated third parties. Even members of the business analyst/investor community could probably do a bit of a better job. Crank the volume down by 50% on some of the praising (but subjective) adjectives and qualifiers; and likely in this article could be improved dramatically and inspire more confidence in the credibility of its authorship.

Just for one early example in the article, "In the 1970s, Rogers Cable Television had become Canada's most innovative cable company." Although this claim might be an agreeable assertion to anyone familiar with the subject matter (I am definitely not the authority, I was just being born), it's praise is both too vague (subjective) and too qualitative. A more numerical approach (for ex., "The 1970's was a period of important, strategic growth; where Rogers Cable Television acquired more broadcast licenses than any other corporate entity in the entire history of the Canadian broadcast industry.") might give readers a greater sense credibility with respect to authorship.

Do not get me wrong. The story of Rogers Communications is one of the most glorious tales in the formation and rise of a Canadian business behemoth and family dynasty.

The objection is simply that we need to keep (at least) the tone (if not the core of the content itself) of wiki-articles as if written from the perspective of a scientist/researcher rather than the public-relations wing of the company itself. Skychildandsonofthesun (talk) 01:17, 30 April 2009 (UTC)


 * I agree. This article reads as one long sales pitch. I've added advert, although sadly I'm unequal to the task of helping to clean it up. — INTRIGUE B LUE (talk|contribs) 02:01, 26 September 2009 (UTC)


 * Its been almost a year and not much has changed. Today I stumbled back unto this page and re-read it (the article) + these comments and still feel that someone needs to re-write the article with less of a slant.  The general flow of information is fine but the tone/diction is too Public-Relation-like and not encyclopedic in style.  I am too busy to do this myself (and not an authority on Rogers) but can someone please do this in order to preserve the integrity of wikipedia and our mission statement as wiki editors (re: "neutral point of view").  THanks.  --    SKY  child   15:04, 28 January 2010 (UTC)


 * I third this - there really should be some type of criticism section a la AT&T_Mobility's article. I noticed that a recent edit to insert competition was removed. It wasn't well written but it should have stayed and just been cleaned up. I think that this article should be updated with this info. How am I protected from roger's lawyers when I update it with info they don't like??? Theoretically they could back-trace my ip and I woulda dun goof'd... 06:39, 19 August 2010 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.14.148.236 (talk)


 * Register for a Wikipedia account and they won't be able to see your IP. — INTRIGUE B LUE (talk&#124;contribs) 22:14, 25 February 2011 (UTC)

This is Garbage?
This whole entry is a big ad for Rogers clearly written by Rogers staffers. Even the external links are nothing more than Marketing websites set up by the company. Very sad Wikipedia —Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.112.95.73 (talk) 21:28, 8 October 2009 (UTC)

Changes in the Wireless
There have been many new things happening in Canadian wireless, the spectrum auction, the new entrants Bell and TELUS creating a HSPA+ network. —Preceding unsigned comment added by IMiiTH (talk • contribs) 03:33, 11 November 2009 (UTC)

Nadir Mohamed
There is still no bio article on the president of Rogers to this date.--dunnhaupt (talk) 18:53, 8 September 2010 (UTC)

Did Ted Rogers make radios?
From the article: "By making available FM radios to boost FM penetration, which was only at 3% at the time, Ted Rogers was able to make more Canadians aware of FM transmitters."

I thought Rogers was a broadcasting company, but this says Rogers made radios. Is that correct, or is it just misworded? LUxlii (talk) 15:09, 6 December 2010 (UTC)

Who ran Rogers Communications after 1939?
Ted Rogers Sr. died in 1939, and according to the article "his business interests were sold." At that time, Ted Rogers Jr. was about six years old. How did Ted Rogers Jr. manage to regain control of the company later? Also, on the Ted Rogers Sr. page, it says that his successor as the leader of Rogers Communications was Ted Rogers Jr.. How could Ted Rogers Jr. begin to run the company at the age of six years old? There wasn't another leader in between? I would like to see more clarification about this time period in the company's history. Selerian (talk) 11:41, 24 January 2011 (UTC)

Forbes Global 2000
Rogers ranked 455 in terms of sales, profit and assets. Bell ranked in 267. Comes to show how massive telecommunications has become in Canada. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mmahi12 (talk • contribs) 08:13, 8 February 2012 (UTC)

Feedback from Rogers
Hey all - My name is Keith McArthur and I work at Rogers. I wanted to draw your attention to a factual error in the page. These are the edits made by user "67.69.15.83" on August 30, 2012. There was not a French man named Kevin Lavallee involved in the founding of Rogers and there is no source to back up this statement. My preference is not to edit my company's page myself, so I wanted to draw this to the attention of the community and hope that someone will undo this edit to improve the accuracy of this Wikipedia entry. Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rogerskeith (talk • contribs) 12:56, 17 September 2013 (UTC)
 * ✅ █  EMARSEE   06:09, 18 September 2013 (UTC)]

NEW COMPETITION EN ROUTE!
Consumers will finally have the option to leave Rogers as their cell phone provider in late 2008. New bandwidth is being auctioned off in May 2008 with the successful bidder being announced a few weeks later. Rogers is prohibited from purchase controlling share of any new competition entering the Canadian market place. Ted Rogers (Rogers Communications) expressed dissapointment at this announcement in contrast to the jubilation expressed by the consumers. His comments can be found through Google. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 206.116.29.187 (talk) 09:25, 30 December 2007 (UTC)

Headquarters
According to the Rogers' Annual Report the address for 'Corporate Offices' is 333 Bloor St. E. This article shows Rogers Building, which is One Mount Pleasant Rd. Please let me know if I'm mistaken, otherwise will update. -Truther2012 (talk) 14:37, 30 September 2013 (UTC)
 * ✅ Truther2012 (talk) 19:04, 22 November 2013 (UTC)

CEO Change
Hi I'm also a Rogers employee, so I don't want to go in and change the page myself, but I did want to flag that the current CEO is not Guy Laurence, as currently listed. Guy Laurence will be CEO effective Dec. 2. The current CEO is Nadir Mohamed. It's all outlined in our recent news release. Thanks, J
 * ✅ Truther2012 (talk) 19:12, 25 September 2013 (UTC)

Update: Dec. 2: Guy Laurence is now the CEO of Rogers. Would someone be able to make the change?
 * ✅, but no write-up Truther2012 (talk) 16:17, 4 December 2013 (UTC)