Talk:Roj TV

= Comments = Please do indicate how your addition improves the article. See also WP:CONSENSUS and WP:OWN (last one b/c of your suggestion for me to discuss on talk page, instead of you yourself initializing it).


 * 1) (exact transmission time varies somewhat) : trivial piece, more importantly original research
 * 2) title of section: we can reach a consensus here
 * 3) so far unsuccesfully: addition of unsourced info before a source giving idication of being sourced, but in fact it is trivial repetition as well, a better one would be to say "it is banned" when it is banned (if it will ever be banned).
 * 4) insists:same, POV change of sourced statement
 * 5) The Turkish authorities have repeadedly made formal complaints to The Danish Radio and Televison council regarding ROJ TV but to date none of the complaints to the have been upheld by the board who have ruled that the TV channel has not violated Danish law.: Unnecessary, original research, unsourced
 * 6) don't see why the rest of this section is better in your version
 * 7) This is not the right article for "Kurdish broadcasting in Turkey", but making that section is warranted as long as the text stays here. I am not against it at the moment, even if the existence of that section might be breaching WP:NPOV (why should it be there, is someone trying to make a point?) If there is a relevance, it is not well established.

Once again, see WP:CONSENSUS, please don't overlook this suggestion. DenizTC 11:24, 7 November 2007 (UTC)


 * Rather than repeadedly reverting/cutting out test you feel is insufficently sourced would it not be better to but "citation needed" on the bits you take issue with and then leave it for a few days to afford other editors the opportunity to come up with acceptable citations (or if you feel the citations are insufficent discuss it here) ? If after a reasonable period of time nobody can come up with anything then by all means edit/delete. Reverting or removing bits of text posted in good faith with little or no explanation/discussion, particularly on an article dealing with a controversial subject tends to give rise to unhelpful edit/revert wars.


 * * 1) Strictly speaking you are correct about it being OR but it is nevertheless useful for any interested person trying to view the programme. Its time does very quite a bit (some weeks doesnt seem to go out at all).
 * * 2) Title of Section: (Presume youre referring to "PKK connections" V's "Controversy"). "PKK Connections" is a tad POV (Since the channel denies Turkish Govt claims about it being a PKK mouthpiece), "Alleged PKK Connections" is probably too POV in the other direction, "Controversy" is a fairly reasonable compromise is it not ?
 * * 3) Would "repeatedly" be better then ?
 * * 4) Is "Insists" not appropriate in the context of the channels denial of some serious accusations (terrorist links etc) made against them ?
 * * 5) RE: Sourcing Until recently there was a statement from ROJ on their website (gone now but I can try and dig it up via an archive if necessary) in which they quote the Danish Radio/TV council rulings
 * * 6) Assuming you are referring to the Med TV/ITC saga. Including the bit about "allegations of bias on the ITC's part" makes the section more NPOV
 * * 7) The section on "Kurdish broadcasting" is relevent because helps to explain to the reader WHY the people behind ROJ TV are claiming there is a need for their channel in Turkey.
 * 80.229.222.48 23:10, 7 November 2007 (UTC)

Germany
What exactly are the implications of the "ban" of Roj TV anyway ? As the channel never has actually broadcast from Germany it seems rather pointless. Was the chennel ever carried on cable there ? Is it illegal for anyone in Germany to recieve/watch the channel and if so is this the first instance since 1945 (at least in the Western part) of it being illegal for a German resident to tune into a foreign broadcast ? 213.40.103.77 (talk) 11:17, 24 August 2008 (UTC)

It was carried in some regions of Germany on cable. But it's not illegal to watch the channel through satellite broadcasting. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.58.207.222 (talk) 16:30, 6 April 2009 (UTC)

The ban of Roj TV in Germany was cancelled in 2010 by court decision.

TRT first ?
In 2004, the national public broadcaster TRT became the first major broadcaster to broadcast a Kurdish-language programme.

While this may (???) be the case in relation to television it is hardly true for radio. Iraq and the former Soviet union broadcast in Kurdish at various times although I dont have details of which particular dialects were used. 213.40.129.129 (talk) 15:11, 22 November 2008 (UTC)

What country does it operate from
Is the channel actually based in Denmark or Belgium ? It operates under a Danish licence but most of the studio facilities (and possibly the uplink) seem to be based in Belgium ? Similarly Med TV seemed to be based in Belgium but it was closed down by the French government (following lobbying from Turkey) ? 86.112.55.177 (talk) 15:19, 14 March 2010 (UTC)

Edit request from Hargir, 31 August 2010
Roj TV has now been formally indicted by the danish attorney general for violation of the danish anti-terrorism legislation. Specifically for "promoting terrorist activities" of the kurdish organization PKK.

Reference: http://jp.dk/indland/article2168377.ece

Hargir (talk) 14:43, 31 August 2010 (UTC)


 * I have added it more or less as you suggested with a few slight tweaks. --DanielRigal (talk) 17:56, 31 August 2010 (UTC)


 * Suggest we add more about the possible implications (eg: licence suspension/revocation) and likely timescale if this action is successful along with a mention of the alleged role of a former Danish PM/senior figure in NATO ! 86.112.52.60 (talk) 23:08, 12 September 2010 (UTC)

Vandalism (Spam)
Note No 11 appears to have been vandalised. The link itself appears to be valid but the title/text appears to be spam for a search engine. 86.112.52.60 (talk) 23:08, 12 September 2010 (UTC)

Are the still around ?
Is Roj TV still broadcasting (either on satellite or the internet) ? This article hasn't had much in the way of updates since 2012 and the link to the live stream seems to be dead ? 2.221.95.64 (talk) 11:50, 30 August 2015 (UTC) It seems to be defunct - another channel, Sterk TV, may be a replacement - it appears to resemble its programming in many ways. Hythlodaeus24 (talk) 10:01, 20 July 2017 (UTC)