Talk:Roland Berger

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Please edit the following suggestions to make the article more up-to-date: -Please delete Blackstone Group (Advisory)and Deutsche Bank (Advisory) from "Board member of". -The new firm name of Roland Berger Strategy Consultants is "Roland Berger", please adjust this in the text. -Furthermore, Berger is a founding partner and Chairman of London-based RiverRock European Capital Partners (formerly BLM Partners) which he established with Florian Lahnstein, Gero Wendenburg and Jason Carley. -In November 2012 Michel Péretié, former CEO of the Corporate and Investment Banking Division of Société Générale until January 2012, joined RiverRock as partner and CEO. -Please change the next paragraph to: He is a member of the Advisory Council of INSEAD and a member of the supervisory board of the pharmaceuticals and healthcare company Fresenius SE (http://www.fresenius.com/). He was Chairman Germany on the International Advisory Board of Blackstone Group. Thank you very much.


 * Hello, Franziska Poszler. Please remember to always sign your posts on talk pages (including article talk pages) with ~ (four tildes).


 * You did not give a source for Berger no longer being on the boards of Blackstone Group or Deutsche Bank, but as there were no sources cited for him being on those boards in the article, either, I have deleted them.
 * ! I could not find any sources (even in Roland Berger's own press releases!) which stated unambiguously that "Roland Berger Strategy Consultants" had been dropped in favor of simply "Roland Berger" as the firm name. I would consider a press release sufficient in order to make this change, though, so feel free to have your PR department do that and get back to me. (see below)
 * "Furthermore, Berger is a founding partner and Chairman ..." Source found, change made.
 * "In November 2012 Michel Péretié ... joined RiverRock as partner and CEO. "Source found, change made.
 * "Please change the next paragraph to ..." I did you one better, and began with "Berger" instead of "he" so it doesn't appear that the sentence is referring to Péretié.
 * ! I could not find any sources stating that Berger "was Chairman Germany on the International Advisory Board of Blackstone Group", so since the request was to make this past tense, I have simply removed the sentence. If you know of a corroborating source for the requested text I will gladly add a sentence about it.
 * I'll take a look at the rest of the articles tomorrow, but if the changes are as uncontroversial as these, there should be little to no problem. Thank you for your patience, and for respecting Wikipedia's policy that discourages users with a conflict of interest from editing articles about themselves or their organizations directly. — GrammarFascist  contribs talk 04:42, 2 October 2015 (UTC)

Hello GrammarFascist, thank you very much for implementing the changes. Here are additional/updated references:
 * 1) http://rolandberger.com/company/
 * 2) http://www.ft.com/cms/s/9e565f06-93fc-11dc-acd0-0000779fd2ac,Authorised=false.html?siteedition=uk&_i_location=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ft.com%2Fcms%2Fs%2F1%2F9e565f06-93fc-11dc-acd0-0000779fd2ac.html%3Fsiteedition%3Duk&_i_referer=&classification=conditional_standard&iab=barrier-app#axzz3nOvDUxK5
 * 3) http://www.wsj.com/articles/SB934828266833132488
 * 4) http://www.vault.com/company-profiles/management-strategy/roland-berger-strategy-consultants-asia/company-overview.aspx
 * 5) http://www.referenceforbusiness.com/history2/31/Roland-Berger-Partner-GmbH.html
 * 6) http://www.ft.com/intl/cms/s/82cad99a-f59e-11df-99d6-00144feab49a,Authorised=false.html?siteedition=uk&_i_location=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ft.com%2Fcms%2Fs%2F0%2F82cad99a-f59e-11df-99d6-00144feab49a.html%3Fsiteedition%3Duk&_i_referer=&classification=conditional_standard&iab=barrier-app%20-%20axzz162O5ZSzz
 * 7) http://www.ft.com/home/europe
 * 8) http://www.consultant-news.com/article_display.aspx?p=adp&id=13311
 * 9) http://www.rolandberger.com/company/corporate_responsibility/
 * 10) http://www.best-of-european-business.com/
 * 11) http://www.counter-parts.org/
 * 12) http://www.trading-house.net/news/roland-berger-unterstuetzt-die-young-global-leaders-gesellschaftliches-engagement-als-verbindendes-element-von-fuehrungskraeften-weltweit-22034889
 * 13) http://www.welt.de/wirtschaft/article13825083/Bonitaetswaechter-wehren-sich-gegen-Staatseinmischung.html
 * 14) http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2013-04-29/european-rating-agency-plan-founders-on-lack-of-financing
 * 15) https://www.rolandberger.com/company/company_management/global_management.html
 * 16) http://www.wallstreet-online.de/nachricht/6841852-roland-berger-strategy-consultants-charles-edouard-bouee-elected-new-ceo
 * 17) http://www.rolandberger.com/company/company_management/Supervisory_Board.html
 * 18) http://www.rolandberger.com/press_releases/supervisory_board_appoints_new_chairman.html

Thank you and kind regards, Franziska Poszler --Franziska Poszler (talk) 09:46, 2 October 2015 (UTC)


 * Thank you for listing so many reference, Franziska Poszler. I have edited your list so that it no longer displays as one big block of text. As a reminder, the Roland Berger website and press releases can only be used as sources for uncontroversial facts — ones no one would reasonably challenge. Some of the sources in that list are clearly simple repostings of Roland Berger press releases by other websites, also, which are counted the same as self-published press releases.


 * Because there were so many listed, could you please specify which (if any) of those 18 references proves that Mr. Berger was formerly Chairman Germany on the International Advisory Board of Blackstone Group? Or let me know if simply removing the mention of the Blackstone Group International Advisory Board position satisfies you.


 * Unfortunately I cannot use the Financial Times (ft.com) sources, as that website is subscription-only and even the "free" trial requires a credit card. The Wall Street Journal is subscription-only also, but the first few sentences of the article cited are visible to me, confirming the 1967 founding date.


 * I have reconsidered the issue of the company name changing, and I have decided that it is clear enough (even though it is not explicitly stated that the name was changed) that the company is now doing business as Roland Berger. I have therefore "moved" the Roland Berger Strategy Consultants article to Roland Berger (company). (We call renaming an article "moving" it at Wikipedia.) The article about the company cannot simply be called Roland Berger since the article about the man already has that title. A note at the top of the Roland Berger article directs people looking for the article about the company to the right place in case they arrive at that page in error.


 * Monday or Tuesday I will move on to the other articles you had requested edits on, if the edits have not already been made by other editors. Thank you again for respecting Wikipedia policies and procedures. — GrammarFascist  contribs talk 08:14, 3 October 2015 (UTC)

DearGrammarFascist, thank you so much for all your help. For this article I don't have any further suggestions. Thanks again and kind regards, Franziska Poszler--Franziska Poszler (talk) 13:53, 9 October 2015 (UTC)

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