Talk:Roland Moreno

German inventors
In 1968 and 1969 German electrical engineers Helmut Gröttrup and Jürgen Dethloff jointly filed patents for the automated chip card (for details see page of Helmut Gröttrup. 188.96.230.245 (talk) 21:45, 11 April 2013 (UTC)

I think that the biography over Moreno isn't correct because Helmut Gröttrup and Jürgen Dethloff jointly filed patents for the automated chip card earlier than Roland Moreno. RomaBerlina (talk) 22:36, 11 April 2013 (UTC)

RomaBerlina (talk) 22:37, 11 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Jürgen Dethloff, inventor galery by Deutsches Patent- und Markenamt
 * Alles auf eine Karte, NDR, 30 May 2011

I don't think this section belongs in the head of the bio at all: "In 1968 and 1969 German electrical engineers Helmut Gröttrup and Jürgen Dethloff jointly filed patents for the automated chip card,[1][2][3] ". The discussion of who first filed the patent should be moved to the Smart Card section. Regardless of patent, Roland Moreno is known for the smart card. The contest of this should be formulated somewhere else. The two patents are actually different: Helmut Gröttrup and Jürgen Dethloff patent covers concept of automated chip card whereas Moreno's covers secured memory on chip.--2klodu67 (talk) 05:35, 13 April 2013 (UTC)