Talk:Rolf Liebermann

Lale Andersen
When expanding this, don't forget his lifelong relationship with Lale Andersen! Lupo 13:31, 16 January 2006 (UTC)

Premiere of Leonore 40/45
Jerome Kohl recently a source for the year and place of the premiere for Liebermann's opera Leonore 40/45. The list of works was in November 2006. This predates the creation of the German Wikipedia article de:Leonore 40/45 which also gives 26 March 1952 in Basel. The external link in that article, http://www.operone.de/opern/leonore4.html, gives the same and I suspect the article's creator, de:User:Dr. Belotz, relied on Taschenlexikon für Oper, Operette, Ballett by Dr. Hertha Bauer, Humboldt-Taschenbuch Nr. 27, and Knaurs Opernführer, Westerman/Schumann (1969); see that article's history. -- Michael Bednarek (talk) 06:48, 14 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Thank you, Michael. At least this establishes a date earlier than the Berlin premiere. Although this will require further research, I wonder if the explanation may lie in the distinction between a concert performance and a staged premiere. The Times critic reviewing the 1953 Berlin staged performance indicated that the work was already regarded by that time as controversial (for its subject matter, not the music).—Jerome Kohl (talk) 21:43, 14 November 2010 (UTC)
 * A further observation: I see at that website that subsequent performances are listed in 1955 and 1957, but no mention is made of the 1953 Berlin staging. This does not augur well for the reliability of the website, at least.—Jerome Kohl (talk) 21:46, 14 November 2010 (UTC)
 * I agree regarding the lack of reliability of the OperaOne website, or rather its lack of completeness. I might contact the German Wiki author towards the end of the week. -- Michael Bednarek (talk) 03:28, 15 November 2010 (UTC)
 * At the same time, it is just possible that the reviewer for the Times in 1953 was mistaken. Thanks for your help.—Jerome Kohl (talk) 04:46, 15 November 2010 (UTC)
 * I've asked Dr. Belotz for confirmation, without response so far. In the meantime, I found confirmation for the premiere on 25 March 1952 in Basel in several places, i.a. in Riemann's Musiklexikon, Schott 1975, 12th ed. (Carl Dahlhaus, ed.), supplement "Personenteil L–Z", p. 55. Unfortunately, the publisher of the score, Universal Edition, gives a rather sloppy "Basel/Switzerland 01.01.1952" here.
 * I also found several sources referring to performances soon after in Berlin and at La Scala, e.g.:, . The Berlin performance was probably at the Städtische Oper, as was the Deutsche Oper Berlin then called when it performed in the Theater des Westens in Berlin Charlottenburg which was indeed in the British sector, as the Times review noted. Both these sources, like the Times, also mention the audience's dislike of the subject matter in those two later productions, whereas the Basel production was apparently well received. -- Michael Bednarek (talk) 02:14, 18 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Good work! The Times reviewer no doubt did not have very good German, and mistranslated Städtische as "state" rather than "civic" or "municipal". There seems to be no doubt that the 1952 Basel performance did occur. The thing that still remains to be determined is whether it was staged, or a concert performance.—Jerome Kohl (talk) 03:17, 18 November 2010 (UTC)

Suite über 6 schweizerische Volkslieder
The article Suite über 6 schweizerische Volkslieder is up for AfD here. In case it get deleted, I'm parking the content of that article here. -- Michael Bednarek (talk) 12:22, 5 April 2023 (UTC)

The Suite über 6 schweizerische Volkslieder für Orchester (Swiss Folk Song Suite) is an orchestral piece by Rolf Liebermann, published in 1947. It is dedicated to the Swiss composer Paul Burkhard.

It consists of six parts:
 * 1) Es isch kei sölige Stamme (Fröhlig bestimmt, Allegro)
 * 2) Im Aargäu sind zwie Liebi (Gemächlig, Andantino)
 * 3) Schönster Abestörm (Ruhig, nicht schleppen, Andante)
 * 4) Durs Oberland uf und durs Oberland ab (Lustig, Allegro moderato)
 * 5) S'isch äben e Mönsch uf Ärde (Langsam, Lento)
 * 6) Üsen Ätti (Sehr frisch, Allegro vivace)

Published recordings

 * 1956 – Deutsche Grammophon 30 113 EPL, RIAS Symphonie-Orchester Berlin conducted by Ferenc Fricsay
 * 1998 – Musica Helvetica MH CD 103.2, Schweizer Kammerphilharmonie conducted by Patrice Ulrich