Talk:Roman Romulo/GA1

GA Review
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Reviewer: Shearonink (talk · contribs) 06:53, 7 March 2017 (UTC)

I am giving this article a Review for possible GA status. Shearonink (talk) 06:53, 7 March 2017 (UTC)

GA review – see WP:WIAGA for criteria


 * 1) Is it well written?
 * A. The prose is clear and concise, and the spelling and grammar are correct:
 * B. It complies with the manual of style guidelines for lead sections, layout, words to watch, fiction, and list incorporation:
 * As soon as adjustments/corrections in the "some issues" section are made, I will be able to pass this article on the 1B parameter. Shearonink (talk) 20:04, 27 March 2017 (UTC)
 * 1) Is it verifiable with no original research?
 * A. It contains a list of all references (sources of information), presented in accordance with the layout style guideline:
 * B. All in-line citations are from reliable sources, including those for direct quotations, statistics, published opinion, counter-intuitive or controversial statements that are challenged or likely to be challenged, and contentious material relating to living persons&mdash;science-based articles should follow the scientific citation guidelines:
 * The following references have issues:
 * Ref #4/asc.edu.ph - dead?, #7/philstar.com - page not found, #11/12/13/14 - 503/unavailable/gov.ph.
 * The following refs still have issues, this Review is on hold until this is corrected/adjusted:
 * Ref #8/asc.edu.ph isn't working, Refs #16, 20, 18, 22 (www.gov.ph) are all not working/service unavailable.
 * Shearonink (talk) 13:50, 18 March 2017 (UTC)
 * Fixed all links. gov.ph (official gazette) sources were removed and replaced with Senate.gov.ph (senate) sources. asc.edu.ph (as of posting) can be opened. ~  Manila's Poging  Juan  14:14, 20 March 2017 (UTC)
 * C. It contains no original research:
 * Everything is fine with this parameter. Shearonink (talk) 20:04, 27 March 2017 (UTC)
 * D. It contains no copyright violations nor plagiarism:
 * Copyvio tool found no problems. Shearonink (talk) 04:26, 14 March 2017 (UTC)
 * Please see #6A. There are copoyvio concerns about the Infobox photo. Shearonink (talk) 21:29, 16 March 2017 (UTC)
 * I have explained on the discussion board that there was no copyright vio, because I had my clear source and the nominator's only basis is a [https://www.google.it/search?tbs=sbi:AMhZZivorB87vjMCl-Gg8wf_1ua9MCG2oEUkEevmt3-AWyRxoQJyxeU2WNwA6qg970d3R9rEK96yvdwoKIYJ9eGwRV76y8kwWzW-JTltplg8U2k9KqDpPmAaiiw4Et1pkz0006OTEkRFQxsnClaMh3nL6Y-C-ONBshy-fm7N6XaSF6ZsY032YJ8BrfQb5kTIIQNZJjCNhn_1HLSzoFLYH6uCiL0B-P-PwT-D9E-IAvvxUXWEOu-BerjIQPgmjDK6nKhoAbR9BTBi73WNj5dQr7iqIFtwqCCYB_1P38VBl5q9Zt-x5D_14ih4-vkDzF9jv7-iUQqxjZlDJiwyhLohdWG7k1mr2OHAzJSuK6pXRA85frbLdaVR2pkXeToDQwnsfFAw0l2r04bDiBn3nbPkgzGvxLaogR9WDUTcJI0YK9XrhJ9_1hvQdr0dV7B0Q_1VLjVN67TA4EAS_1--37TGP_1NfSsVXvk1Y8rWPaGKddbz-Hv4Xkn7Y4g7Ft6U6kDO7OzAOZkCsn4kV6--SD86mcpJd7RqV-rxHaFZx14919pMa-qIRpXZmZzaVNNrvrUTJcM2i_1mcDiaaiX8YJaZinXsxvX5_1jFZ-EOdmJSG1yvia65s_1eyJa56s92Y374VSjhXVsc7-vTZi9esAvp8PAtM5W-182Tmrwr1MLsTHvYw-UY_1abnKnWOzZlCgE4-GrvfaHBH1akW6dA5uXVmfrYm8LGOk0uxWqRDU9q3TYByGuOX9SOQ5Tjy3bjHWXabYbNM33teI9D94EBJzE5mq0NCpFZ_1dNbdxN3t-4jHtb4FYX9U1kRtpEYicUANbp8M0oEJSsfX05IUU4AXkat8Ul5PVhHgpdEfUVfT6m7m3lk-nhn8Z404x1bk8rYn61IugdbtsyQPeBUR7jvdGmAWa8OyRqFoq0PwKY9SHr_1IWdbQwdF7-bFKQ7bO0EomoZahKyoHMokHEMlObiFiTgUW5P1qZS9tU9JLr2cW6rpUDYEJYQMRZc50tVSYON74nTpA6Zw0f1Nsdzl0BDVQFKTycqTQZMnUxWmNQg2ZSu6Tkx-gTy6nas8nApPDKyqJeIfull9uz1CjQwKu2R72fmJ5CT9ZUdZkUrR9jPhP4j8WEgNccr1XCcPtN3Ys2Z_1HH_1HgzKKaJJxK2yGxxK7U00cI6S7QheP1tGYi3BK6163YXko2RO0JfW78-mHGs7F5Ruy8L2pxSh2tq8QcTx8gm7j5oU-aIrfSdKGuuEoPyvlNnlqE00IAHcpuiWIzYnO4vl-xQ8h2WmcB9twMkL-JB812R31Vn2qVlapc8haXwNW4jGBhYzaNzwPYpEk4tM9AUpP7YODj18GwDjh7SX_1q8h5OTbo1AOoiSP05jT3R_1v6QERev7fgoxo-1w5Kv6LBWqIpxynWjJZ4GsVFlnk9uDdBHE-JG3rYQwoUNC1eE0-5fae5kwevM--8zZV8AHWiE6s2kjBpo0eCbzxcYtAS6cOvfMM06FESS_1ePMBpYqwZtHBGCUBcC3f-wvC6RYjzEm9wji95Kx9TcXUPyt5MQ2ZYxFmMVmpFIvdK435HeueQoAGh2u7l-ri6FHZ8ubuZKE-OMsrQ62479ImPpyYEuF9_1lnzruyxuGXdC25SvFYAdiGfUu4_1s_1BdaxtOqt4p51JpBF5ZPhB8cHWBPSFkn_1-UCNYVZw3IasNpo_1M7iUY7pnOWOWaBLvryrUCSON0zTdtrk_1HvWTWVoAg2TSL9RSA430bVF2 Google image search]. We are currently raising it to the village pump. ~  Manila's Poging  Juan  15:12, 18 March 2017 (UTC)
 * The decision was kept. ~  Manila's Poging  Juan  08:03, 25 March 2017 (UTC)
 * Thank you for getting that cleared-up. Shearonink (talk) 20:04, 27 March 2017 (UTC)
 * 1) Is it broad in its coverage?
 * A. It addresses the main aspects of the topic:
 * I do wish there were more editorial meat here...aren't there any details about his election campaigns? has he announced any plans for the future since his unsuccessful Senate bid? (and so on) Shearonink (talk) 04:26, 14 March 2017 (UTC)
 * Updated the article with the details of his campaign. However, there were no statements coming from him since his lost. I'll put his sister's statement. ~  Manila's Poging  Juan  09:34, 29 March 2017 (UTC)
 * Much better. I'll be reading through the article today/tomorrow - if I don't find something I missed in my previous work on the article I should be able to then finish up this Review. Shearonink (talk) 17:34, 29 March 2017 (UTC)
 * B. It stays focused on the topic without going into unnecessary detail (see summary style):
 * This is one time when I think there isn't enough information. Shearonink (talk) 04:26, 14 March 2017 (UTC)
 * 1) Is it neutral?
 * It represents viewpoints fairly and without editorial bias, giving due weight to each:
 * 1) Is it stable?
 * It does not change significantly from day to day because of an ongoing edit war or content dispute:
 * No edit-warring...yay! Shearonink (talk) 04:26, 14 March 2017 (UTC)
 * 1) Is it illustrated, if possible, by images?
 * A. Images are tagged with their copyright status, and valid fair use rationales are provided for non-free content:
 * There aren't any CC-BY-SA etc images available?
 * The infobox photo - File:Roman Romulo portrait.jpg - has been flagged for a copyright violation. Please get this fixed - this GA Review will be on hold until the matter is settled. Shearonink (talk) 21:29, 16 March 2017 (UTC)
 * The decision was kept.
 * This issue has been corrected. Shearonink (talk) 20:04, 27 March 2017 (UTC)
 * B. Images are relevant to the topic, and have suitable captions:
 * 1) Overall:
 * Pass or Fail:
 * As soon as requested corrections in the "Some issues" section are made, I should be able to finish up this GA Review within a day or two. Shearonink (talk) 20:04, 27 March 2017 (UTC)
 * Congratulations, it's a WP:GA. Going forward just make sure you keep the article updated with any changes - sounds like Romulo will probably be involved with public service/running for office in the future. Shearonink (talk) 20:42, 29 March 2017 (UTC)
 * 1) Overall:
 * Pass or Fail:
 * As soon as requested corrections in the "Some issues" section are made, I should be able to finish up this GA Review within a day or two. Shearonink (talk) 20:04, 27 March 2017 (UTC)
 * Congratulations, it's a WP:GA. Going forward just make sure you keep the article updated with any changes - sounds like Romulo will probably be involved with public service/running for office in the future. Shearonink (talk) 20:42, 29 March 2017 (UTC)

Comments
Please ping me when you have edited the article - I am concerned that I will miss your adjustments otherwise. Shearonink (talk) 21:29, 16 March 2017 (UTC)

bits & pieces
Thanks for the recent corrections, there are some other issues:
 * There is some trivia/extraneous detail in the Personal life section. The list of people at the wedding and that Romulo's wife has had difficulty getting pregnant should both be removed.

Prose/grammar issues in Early life and education section, (changes are in brackets [] ):
 * Romulo was born on February 28, 1967 in Quezon City [and is] the third of the five children of diplomat and politician Alberto Romulo and Rosie Lovely Tecson. [The following sentence should be removed, the names of Romulo's siblings are unneeded, they are private individuals and there is some expectation of privacy. He has four siblings, namely: Guadalupe, Monserrat, Bernadette, and Erwin.] [His father] was a former Senator, Budget Secretary, Finance Secretary, Executive Secretary, and Foreign Affairs Secretary.

The following sentences are confusing.
 * Romulo attended Ateneo de Manila University for his primary education
 * [the phrase "primary education" is understood differently in other countries. In the US, for instance, primary education can refer to grade school or elementary school.  You could possibly mean this is where Romulo studied for his Bachelors degree but I think you mean grade school/elementary school.  If so, there needs to be some type of additional info - this cannot be the actual University Romulo attended but rather an associated school for young children]


 * where he graduated in 1981, and attended PAREF Southridge School for his secondary education, where he graduated in 1985.
 * [too many "wheres" in a row]

Hope all of the above makes sense. Ping me if it doesn't. Shearonink (talk) 14:38, 20 March 2017 (UTC)
 * He took [a] Bachelor's Degree in Economics at the University of the Philippines Diliman in Quezon City and graduated in 1990. He also obtained [a] Bachelor of Laws degree at the U.P. College of Law in 1994.
 * Fixed those issues. I also apologize for not being that active, due to busy schedules associated with our upcoming junior high school graduation ceremony on April 4 (PHT). ~  Manila's Poging  Juan  08:02, 25 March 2017 (UTC)

Some issues
I realized upon my most recent proofing-readthrough that there were a few issues I had missed previously:
 * According to the WP:MOS/External links guideline URLs/weblinks can't be linked to within the article text.
 * In the Early career section there are two occurrences where http://www.syciplaw.com/ was used. Those URLs should be deleted and the sentence written as something like:
 * Romulo worked as an associate lawyer at Quisumbing Torres & Evangelista Law Offices and at Sycip Salazar Hernandez & Gatmaitan Law Offices from 1994 to 1999 and as a senior associate lawyer at Sycip Salazar Hernandez & Gatmaitan from 1999 to 2007. He was one of the founding partners of Tolosa, Romulo, Agabin, Flores & Enriquez Law Offices. in 2005.
 * The above is just an example - feel free to put the paragraph into your own words. I deleted the statement about his training in Italy because that information is not supported by the cited reference.  I also made some minor grammatical changes when I was looking over the article today.  As soon as you can deal with the above issues I think I will be able to finish up my Review within a day or two. Shearonink (talk) 20:04, 27 March 2017 (UTC)

Will not be available on March 30 PHT and updates
Good day, GA reviewer, Shearonink! First, I will not be online on March 30, 2017 PHT due to moving-up ceremony general rehearsals from 7:00 to 12:00 PHT and prom from 17:00 to 23:00 PHT and I will not have time to edit in Wikipedia on that day. Secondly, I've put additional details on 2016 Senate bid section and Personal life section. Lastly, I've already corrected issues on "Some issues" section, as you requested. I may be able to come back to Wikipedia on March 31. Thank you for reviewing the article and correcting some issues. ~  Manila's Poging  Juan  18:03, 29 March 2017 (UTC)