Talk:Romanian Christmas traditions

Proposed move
this page should be moved to Christmas worldwide.--Sefringle 10:16, 16 December 2006 (UTC)


 * Comment this should really be a merge proposal instead of a renaming proposal, since Christmas worldwide is already a comprehensive article. Would support merging if this article doesn't appear likely to be more than a stub. Dragomiloff 11:28, 16 December 2006 (UTC)

From WP:RM:

Romanian Christmas traditions → Christmas worldwide —(Discuss)— article is short, and belongs as a subcategory to Christmas worldwide —Sefringle 10:22, 16 December 2006 (UTC)</

I can't believe this is really a move proposal! I'm removing it in the interests of MWOT. Please discuss on my talk page if you're serious. Andrewa 12:18, 23 December 2006 (UTC)


 * I'm sure the "move" proposer was confusing the concept of moving the information to the other page, with the term "move", which is essentially a synonym for "rename" on Wikipedia. :) In any case, ordinarily, I wouldn't like to merge an article on the Christmas traditions of an entire nation to a much more general article on worldwide Christmas celebrations... but, this really provides so little information (including the information I was searching for, which was whether or not they have a version of Santa Claus or Father Christmas, like the US and UK and many other countries do, or other gift-giving characters, like the Italians have), it might as well be merged. There's not even a picture. Afer all, if somebody comes along and wants to expand the information in the other article, and it gets to big, then it could easily have most of it removed and placed onto a page under this or a similar name again. Although, to be fair, that could very well end up being redundant in the end, if it results with a page like this (but with pictures and much more information) again anyway. Really, I wish there were a WikiProject Romania that we could bring in on this kind of thing. I mean... other than now knowing that they celebrate Christmas by giving a day off and having carolers go around with a nativity star thing, I know very little more about a Romanian Christmas than I did before. Romanian culture - from the language on up to various traditions - generally is a rich combination of a number of different cultural influences dating from the various occupations and trade routes and whatnot that it's gone through, ranging from Turkish, to Greek, to Slavic, to well you get the idea. I mean, the language alone has Latinate grammar, mostly Latinate and Slavic phonemes, a mixture of vocabulary from pretty much every language the culture's ever come into contact with, and generally sounds like the lovechild of Russian and Italian (to my ears, at least). Since Romania has been primarily Christian for quite a few centuries now (and IIRC, is still mostly Christian today) I'd wager there's a considerable amount of information about Christmas - ostensibly a Christian holiday - that we're completely missing here. Maybe a good quick Google can save this from needing to be a merge? In any case, I suggest (ironically, considering the subject matter!) that we wait until after Christmas Day before we make any kind of decision on whether or not to merge, since a lot of people will be too busy to do proper research and editing until after Christmas, and plus, most Romanians apparently get Christmas Day off, and some of them might stop by to edit it, you never know. :) 4.235.3.175 23:49, 23 December 2006 (UTC)


 * I've labelled it as a stub which may get it some attention. Perhaps there are other stub categories we could add? These may serve much the same function as a Wikiproject. Andrewa 09:31, 1 January 2007 (UTC)

Proposed merge
See Talk:Christmas worldwide. Andrewa 05:07, 9 January 2007 (UTC)