Talk:Romanism

Romanism
I changed "it was" to "it is" since I would frankly still use that term, and some others do too. It was used as recently as 1924; it's not an archaic expression. Go to www.chick.com, and you'll find it used like that somewhere.

I agree. There are anti-catholics today who have revived the term as they intend, will full purpose knowing it is a deregotary term to Catholics. Oliverdesouza (talk) 06:53, 27 May 2020 (UTC)

anti-Catholic hate does not belong in Wikipedia
I edited the entry to eliminate the spurious claims made and not sourced in any way, and to more accurately describe the current usage of the term. Doc5467 04:48, 26 May 2007 (UTC)

Offensive?
Why was the word offensive to Catholics? Drutt 06:13, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

Eliminating the word's meaning doesn't help
The dictionary meaning of "Romanism" always includes reference to Roman Law, and the implication "compare Germanist" found in Webster's Third New International Dictionary of 1966 cites the usefulness of broadly looking at both, and without bias, to the underlying and influencing concepts. For example, Germany is a mountainous country that some believe nurtured individualism.

What is the "Romanism" the "Anti-Catholics" disliked? By sloughing Romanism queries to an "Anti-Catholics" page, this page does a disservice, as do the editors of Cold War pages who give the impression there was a black-and-white conflict. Some would say what the Cold War and Romanism had in common was that the precursor of each was something formidable, and which was valuable to have in mind, because it represented a thought-through philosophical construct, which might be applied to a variety of contexts. The political methods of Rome extended beyond "Divide and Conquer" to the Fasces, the maintenance of a large harassing under-bureaucracy, and other devices, though it might be competently argued that some of the method of Rome attributed to Caesar-driven policy was more likely authored by human nature. Likewise, it could be argued the "Communism" threat, as Madeline Albright observed in at least one speech, might be a vestigial/seminal Tsarist imperial policy/bureaucracy weakly influenced by Marxism.

Even if there were no connection between Rome and Roman Catholicism -- even by the two opposing one another and adapting to one another's strategies, the word "Romanism" implies Rome and its inscrutable thinking and methods.

That is the meaning of the word as implied in a variety of contexts of literature written in past centuries, and which the nature of a printed dictionary is less apt to include except by way of implication. 66.53.223.236 (talk) 05:09, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

Ultramontanism
Another possible use of the term Romanism may have been used to crticize Ultramontanism, which was the predominant form of ecclesiology during the papacies of Pius IX and Leo XIII. It emphasized the role of the bishop of Rome in the ecclesiastical government of the Church and defended the importance of a functional hierarchy in the relationship between the bishops, the priests and the faithful. Since the theology that emerged after the Second Vatican Council insisted on the importance of collegiality of bishops and on the universal membership in the people of God, it has been argued that the Romanist aspect of the pre-conciliar theology has been somewhat diluted. ADM (talk) 11:55, 2 June 2009 (UTC)

scope
The political term wqould also appear to be a dicdef - a word, not a subject. Really the painters are the only subject associated with the term, and should have the plain title, with a hatnote to the political stuff, moved into some appropriate article like Anti-Catholicism. Johnbod (talk) 02:30, 8 December 2009 (UTC)


 * I agree with you, but I'd rather leave the moving and merging to someone who is familiar with those articles. I only landed on this page by accident, and noticed it was a mess. CapnPrep (talk) 03:40, 8 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Ok, I'll copy these to the talk, & maybe do it some time. Johnbod (talk) 04:51, 8 December 2009 (UTC)