Talk:Ronald Searle

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The "creator of necklaces"
"... he moved to Paris, leaving his family and later marrying Monica Koenig, theater designer and creator of necklaces." - This needs clarification. Call me a Neanderthal but apparently necklaces have been about for 40,000 years. I can't find a source but should it say something like "jewellery designer" or "necklace maker". - Cablehorn (talk) 04:27, 4 January 2012 (UTC)


 * Is there some kind of actual ambiguity in the original? To be honest I find this rather far-fetched. The meaning you see would be expressed as "created the first necklace" - every individual necklace can be described as a "creation" - the word "create" is in fact very commonly used in senses other than "originate" or "invent", especially in artistic contexts.


 * If it does seem a rather odd way of describing the second Mrs. Searle, it is clear, succinct, and unambiguous - which, with due respect, neither of your tries are. Did she design any other kind of jewellery? Did she "make" the necklaces at all - or did she just create the designs? In "brushing up prose" we have to be careful we do not change the meaning of the original - or introduce new implications - unless of course we are aware of real inaccuracy in the original, and want to correct this. Does anyone know anything about Monica? Was she a crafswoman or a pure designer? Was it her profession or just a hobby? The text doesn't say, and without knowing more ourselves (and having a reliable source we can quote) we do have to be careful not to say more than the text does when we edit it. --Soundofmusicals (talk) 22:38, 4 January 2012 (UTC)
 * One of the references to the main article links to a jewellery exhibition in New York: the announcement describes her as a "painter, theater and jewelry designer." NRPanikker (talk) 13:58, 16 September 2018 (UTC)

Searle's "release from captivity" weight
"Pounds" is totally American and quite impossible. People in Britain (and Australia) were NEVER weighed in pounds but in "stones" (there were 14 pounds in a stone) so giving Searle's weight in pounds doesn't give any idea of his emaciation (except to an American). So should we translate 85 pounds to "6 stones"? Nearly did just that - but then this would mean nothing whatever to American readers, nor to young British or Australian ones for that matter, since the English speaking world apart from the U.S. is now pretty comprehensively metricised. Finally decided to convert to (rounded) kilograms (no need for precise conversion when we're talking about an approximation anyway) as this is what we would currently say in the English speaking world outside the US (not to mention in most non-English speaking countries as well). --Soundofmusicals (talk) 08:45, 10 January 2012 (UTC)

Court artist at Nuremberg trials
There's no citation for Searle acting as a court artist at the Nuremberg trial, I've found no drawings for this but there are drawings from the Eichmann trial in Jerusalem some fifteen later. Has a contributor got the two events mixed?

LelseyandOl (talk) 16:39, 19 June 2018 (UTC)