Talk:Ronaldo (Brazilian footballer)/Archive 3

Infobox, past clubs
Why does eveyone put the flags of the club's home country next to the name? It screws up the team lining up the the appropriate stats. I think someone should remove the flags as it would look much more appealing and it would be easier for others to read. If this is agreed upon, why not remove the other flags for the other players? hmm? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 216.26.202.237 (talk) 21:17, 18 February 2007 (UTC).


 * I just removed the flags as all of the stats were out of alignment wiith them included.Statto74 10:13, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

Can somebody fix his stats for Real Madrid??? He scored 83 goals for them and not 69. Last time I checked, 23/31, 24/32, 21/34, 14/23 and 1/7 converts into 83/127 and not 69/98 or whatever you have there...

Do you guys only count league goals? Ronaldo has scored over 100 goals for Real Madrid in all competitions. I remember his 100th goal being scored off a volley from a set piece assisted by Zidane in the 05-06 season. Here is all 100 goals: http://youtube.com/watch?v=zuHa-LMdeTg Mo altarhuni 02:23, 5 September 2007 (UTC)Mo Altarhuni

Playing for both Inter and A.C. Milan
I edited the page to reflect that Ronaldo is now one of the few people to have played for both Inter and AC Milan and to my knowledge, he's the only person to have scored for both sides in the derby - i trawled through countless others and haven't found anyone who managed to do it for both. But I guess I can't really source that so if you deem that to be inconclusive, please change that. I also can't seem to be able to link the "Milan derby" link to the actual Milan derby article which comes up if you type in "wiki milan derby" in the address bar. vadimski 3:49, 13 March 2007

Several players have, so it should be changed, for example Clarence Seedorf has scored for both teams. Also, quite a lot of players have played for both teams. So that should be changed from "Ronaldo is now one of the few people to have played for both Inter and AC Milan", to something like "Ronaldo has now joined the small group of names to have played for both Milanese teams", which suggests more than just a few players.


 * Are you sure that Seedorf scored for both teams in the Milan derby? I know countless players who scored for both sides but I'm pretty sure that Ronaldo is the only one to have scored in the actual derby game. vadimski 6:40, 19 March 2007 (UTC)


 * http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5roTWDCRU3U ... now please change it. And you need to state that quite a lot of players have played ofr both teams. I can think of about ten off the top of my head, and there's bound to be way more than I think of...

Disambiguation (Part 2)
All, I think we need to give some serious thought (again) to making the Ronaldo page a disambiguation page. (By that I mean when you do a search for Ronaldo it goes straight to the disambiguation page rather than the 'Ronaldo Luis Nazário de Lima' page).

Although I would agree that he is the most famous of the Ronaldos that still doesn't mean that he is the only one which is what a Ronaldo search on Wikipedia suggests. The other Ronaldos are also very famous in their own right (Cristiano Ronaldo has had an incredible season this year and is hotly tipped to be voted European player of the year)

If you asked anyone in Europe (or indeed the rest of the world) what they thought of Ronaldo, I'm sure most of them would ask you 'Which one?'

I thought the whole point of Wikipedia was that it constantly changes to reflect the environment. But like I said, even if we agree that Ronaldo Luis Nazário de Lima is the most famous Ronaldo that still doesn't mean he is the only one.

I'll give you an example from Wikipedia itself. I'm sure we'd all agree that Nike Inc (the shoe and apparel manufacturer) is by far the most famous 'Nike'. However a Wikipedia search on Nike takes you straight through to the disambiguation page. I'm sure I can find many more examples if I searched for them. Come on guys, lets get this changed. (Dinosv 11:20, 29 March 2007 (UTC))


 * I disagree. Milan's Ronaldo is simply known as Ronaldo whearas Man United Ronaldo is Cristiano Ronaldo.  Niall123 11:15, 30 April 2007 (UTC)


 * I agree to making the Ronaldo page a disambiguation page. Cristiano Ronaldo's shirt has one name, Ronaldo 7.Page Up 21:28, 13 May 2007 (UTC)

I'm neutral on this issue but agree that the other Ronaldo, and for that matter "the little Rondaldo" (Ronaldinho) are too famous to simply dismiss the discussion. I propose we nominate this article at AfD citing this discussion. As both sides of the argument clearly seem to believe they're in the right, presumably neither side will mind putting their case forward formally? 82.13.151.148 19:28, 1 August 2007 (UTC)


 * No need for this. Ronaldo is simply known as Ronaldo, where as Manchester United's Ronaldo is commonly known as Cristiano Ronaldo Mo altarhuni 19:13, 9 September 2007 (UTC)


 * That is not entirely true. The Portugesse Ronaldo is rarely refered to as Cristiano Ronaldo. He is much more commonly known as Ronaldo, and is becoming more famous every day. I fail to see how there can not be a disambiguation page. Codu (t)⁄(c) &bull; 10:56, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

references broken link
in the references the ninth link is broken ,i tried removing it but when I press edit i can only edit the "references" title...someone plz fix it :) Tbere 19:38, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

Requesting new sections
This article needs a section devoted to his playing style and one on his injury history. I'd start one if I was more eloquent in english :( —Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.164.151.218 (talk • contribs) 11:51, May 5, 2007

I agree this is needed. Playing style should include how is play has changed over the years. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.25.251.122 (talk) 21:21, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

FYI: Recent vandalism/koder's revert comment.
I accidentally hit "enter" while I was typing my revert comment on 6/01/2007. The full version should read "Reverted to Smokizzy's version due to lots of vandalism and bad reverts." I reverted a bunch of changes done by some anonymous users (all of which was vandalism). If I removed anything you think was constructive, just replace it and give me a quick smack :P Cheers. Feel free to nix this section from the discussion page in a week or so. -- koder 22:42, 1 June 2007 (UTC)

Wrong Date of Birth
Ronaldo's date of birth is wrong, it's 22 September, not 18. You can verify on the acmilan homepage. I can't edit it myself because the page is protected. Showb1zz 00:44, 31 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Both es and pt interwiki have it as 22nd. Alexf (t/c) 01:18, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

In this book, the author states the Ronaldo was actually born on the 18th, although because his family didn't have enough money to register him, they had to wait 4 days to save up the money to pay the registration fee, and to avoid a late penalty to registering Ronaldo (in Brazil, there's a fine if you don't register your new-born on time), they just said he was born on the 22nd.

http://www.amazon.com/Ronaldo-Years-Genius-Minutes-Shook/dp/1857823362 74.112.182.130 05:05, 7 October 2007 (UTC)


 * IP user above is correct. His actual date of birth is the 18th.  His apparently "legal" date of birth is on the 22nd.  Now we must decide which to use.  I am a proponent of using the ACTUAL date of birth (the 18th) as it is a true and accurate reflection of the facts.  In the biography paragraph it states why there is a discrepency, which I think is sufficient.  My theory is this, Ronaldo was not born on the 22nd, no matter what his birth certificate says, he entered the world on the 18th. Batman2005 16:21, 9 October 2007 (UTC)

Incorrect Info
"A year after the 1998 FIFA World Cup, he severely injured his right knee and was out of the game for several months. During his first comeback in 2000, he played only seven minutes during a league game against Lazio before injuring his knee for a second time." Infact, it was the coppa italia final (leg 1) played out on April 12th, 2000. A more precise date for the first injury is also November 1999. Mo altarhuni 02:19, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

"He played 100 games and scored 59 goals for nerazzurri." Ronaldo played 99 official games for F.C. Internazionale instead of 100 according to the data from the official site of the Italian club: http://archivio.inter.it/cgi-bin/giocatori-scheda?codice=G0556&L=en

Goal Count
According to the official Brazilian Football Federation webpage [], Ronaldo has a game (goal) count of 112(75). Romario's page uses the same reference site, why the inconsistency?

This is because Ronaldo has scored 67 goals for the National team, and 6 goals for the Olympic Team. Mo altarhuni (talk) 02:12, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

RONALDO:

REAL MADRID 160(100 GOALS) —Preceding unsigned comment added by PŠĐASDF (talk • contribs) 19:24, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

Personal website
I think it would be of value for users to be able to find relevant info about, in this case, Ronaldos websites, under Personal information when entering his Wiki page.

Ronaldo has an offical website called: http://ronaldo.fobazo.com also to be found via http://www.ronaldo.com

best regards.... —Preceding unsigned comment added by Gert Nygaard (talk • contribs) 11:22, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

Can someone please change the picture to this one please
http://www.emmanuel.kiev.ua/Jesus/Photo/EngMax/Ronaldo2.jpg

ITS MUCH YOUTHFUL AND MORE RECOGNIZED —Preceding unsigned comment added by RONALDO2008 (talk • contribs) 03:19, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

i agree can the image be changed as that one is not as great as the one listed above by sinebot —Preceding unsigned comment added by Koby7star (talk • contribs) 13:42, 11 February 2008 (UTC)