Talk:Ronnie Bunting

Noel Lyttle
Has anyone any concrete evidence as to Noel Lyttle's religion?I've read in separate sources that he was either Catholic or Protestant. DColt (talk) 18:30, 3 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Indeed - Deadly Divisions has him as a Protestant, Lost Lives and the Sutton Index say he's a Catholic and both call him Noel Little. Probably best just to leave it out in that case. Keresaspa (talk) 19:19, 5 July 2013 (UTC)

Aye that's the two books I have that give the conflicting info.A nuisance but as advised it's best to avoid any inclusion as it isn't 100% confirmed. DColt (talk) 20:44, 5 July 2013 (UTC)

First non-Catholic internee
This article claims Bunting was the first non-catholic internee. There are a number of sources, like this one and this one that claim that the anarchist John McGuffin was.
 * To be fair the first source states "as far as I know the only Protestant lifted in the initial swoop" (my emphasis) so McCann could be wrong and acknowledges such. The second source states "he was arrested in the first internment swoop on August 9, 1971" so in that case it doesn't claim he was the very first and conceivably Bunting could have been lifted earlier the same day, still making him first by a few hours or minutes. I'm not denying the two sources you provide raise questions but the McKittrick source in our article explicitly states Bunting was first whilst these two only imply it could have been McGuffin so for now it's probably better to leave the article as is. Keresaspa (talk) 01:49, 1 May 2015 (UTC)
 * No it isn't. McKittrick claims that Bunting was interned in November 1971, so these sources conflict no matter what. You can't use Lost Lives as backup for some (otherwise unsourced) theory that he was interned on August 9th 1971. My sources state McGuffin was both Protestant and interned in August 1971 (McCann merely hedges on the grounds that there might have been another Protestant interned at this time). The date of McGuffin's internment is also backed up by McGuffin himself in his own Internment. Notice too, that Lost Lives weasel words Bunting's description. Mckittrick doesn't state outright that Bunting was the first Protestant detainee, but that he 'was described as the first non-Catholic to be interned'. The most likely explanation is that McKittrick got Bunting's internment date right, but didn't know about earlier Protestant internees and made a mistake/hedged when describing Bunting as the first. 80.195.251.78 (talk) 22:39, 11 October 2015 (UTC)
 * So why ask then? You don't have to discuss every change before you make it you know. Keresaspa (talk) 03:50, 17 February 2016 (UTC)