Talk:Roodmas

NPOV dispute
So, this has had an NPOV dispute since July, but no one has explained what the problem is...what exactly is wrong with it? Adam Bishop 16:38, 15 Nov 2004 (UTC)
 * Probably because it talks about associated pagan and neopagan holidays, but says very little about the Christian celebration (from which the name "Roodmas" itself presumably originates). I would think an article about a Christian holiday should mostly describe the Christian celebration while linking to articles about non-Christian celebrations that occur on or about the same day.  However, I know nothing about Roodmas, so I'll let somone else write it :) Gwimpey 21:59, Nov 24, 2004 (UTC)
 * Ahh... I see that the original article was written by a user known as The Warlock who left in a bit of a huff. Assuming the user name says something about his beliefs, I'm guessing that explains the particular POV of the article. Gwimpey 22:04, Nov 24, 2004 (UTC)

pagan viewpoint
the reason someone got upset about the neutrality of the article is two-fold... first of all because Roodmas is not in May, its in December... and secondly because the other holiday mentioned (beltane) which is may 1st is a fertility holiday, not a day to impune christianiity and worship the devil as implied in the article...
 * The Christian feast of Roodmas, or Holy Rood Day, is in fact September 14, not in December or May, and is an archaism for the Feast of the Cross (Exaltation of the Cross). See Robert Chambers (1869) http://www.thebookofdays.com/months/sept/14.htm and William Hone (1825-6) http://www.uab.edu/english/hone/etexts/edb/day-pages/257-sep14.html . It is not to be confused with May 3, the Catholic feast known as Invention of the Cross, anciently known as Crouchmas, which commemorates the finding of the True Cross. I suspect the author of the original article has confused the two dates, as May 3 is close to May 1, the pagan Beltane. Alpheus 13:37, 14 September 2006 (UTC)