Talk:Roof/Archive 1

Ridged roof
Does the pavilion roof count as ridged? Ncik 24 Apr 2005

roof framing for carpenters?
I added two external links that describe roof framing for carpenters. Since this article doesn't seem to be about construction techniques I requested an article on Roof framing here. --Jtir 18:10, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

What is roof pitch?
The article uses the term pitch several times but does not say what it means. Would this article be the place to define roof pitch? --Jtir 18:17, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

Very Local
The opening section of this article is too strongly rooted in an American perspective. Perhaps it could be written to be more global? The majority of domestic buildings in the world may not have pitched roofs, for instance. The main purposes of roofs must surely include shade as well as shelter from precipitation generally, as well as accumulation of water? and better, more universally familiar geographical examples could be taken from different locations around the world.

213.8.87.25 15:18, 19 March 2007 (UTC)


 * I think I've dealt with this one! --Amandajm 09:31, 20 May 2007 (UTC)

are you serious i mean tha would be great it if you actually do it right well good luck with that!!! :) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.29.183.215 (talk) 21:54, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

Version 0.7
This article does need more refs, but other than that it does seem (to me) to cover most of the main points well. With more refs this could be a B, but the point mentioned above is very true - the flat roof vs. pitched roof issue is important, even in the West (I lived in Peterlee, where flat roofs on houses proved disastrous in the English climate). I added in a pic (feel free to revert if there is something better), but there should be some prose. There is also industrial roofing that should be covered more. This article is categorised at V0.7 as "Arts" because architecture is classed that way. A good start, thanks! Walkerma 06:31, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

Roof Framing Etc
Jtir, you are right about roof framing, easy to fill a large article with that alone, and clean up this one. I will give it a go as I already have some sketches completed.

I like the way we are going with the Internationalisation. The new captions and the highlighting of the countries works great, we should see more of it billbeee 22:18, 19 May 2007 (UTC)

Metal roofing
Sorry, forgot to include summary of edit. Corrected typo "currugation". Bewp 11:56, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

Pic
putting a pic here temporarily for use elsewhere. Amandajm 15:16, 23 September 2007 (UTC)

Roof construction
There used to be an article on roof construction. Since this present article has gone more multi-national, I really think we can afford to reinstate the article that was purely about construction. To that end, I have copied some of the info, and a nice new pic to the reinstated page Roof construction. I feel sure there is a great deal more that those with expertise might add. So I'm calling for tenders.

Amandajm 16:26, 23 September 2007 (UTC)

Why do houses have slanted roofs?
'I am doing this project about answering questions, and so we have to find answers to these questions, mine is "Why do houses have slanted roofs?" it would help a lot if I got an answer to this question. Thanks!''' March 4 2008.
 * ~*Kristina W. Toronto, ON*~*
 * Before anyone takes the trouble to answer this (the answer is in the article, of course), the writer is not Kristina but is a vandal - see User talk:216.191.219.50 - Adrian Pingstone (talk) 19:53, 4 March 2008 (UTC)

Roofs to keep birds out
To the anonymous contributor: it makes no sense at all to insist that roofs are intended to keep birds out. Please give your reasons, or cease adding this ludicrous comment to the article. SilentC (talk) 23:25, 5 March 2008 (UTC)


 * The article you have given as a citation lists tips on how to keep wild animals away from your home. It mentions the word 'roof' in the following contexts:


 * 'Yet the animals in the movie -- just like those in your back yard or on your roof -- are hardly appearing unbidden.'
 * 'Keep tree branches trimmed so animals don't use them as an express lane to your roof. And be mindful of cable, electric or other lines connected to your roof as animals can also use them to access your house.'
 * '"Do you know what your roof looks like?"'


 * None of these support your edit. It is obvious that a roof keeps animals out, as do walls. However, without walls, a roof is still a roof, and without walls, animals, including birds, are free to enter. For example a Gazebo, which is basically a roof on posts. The purpose of the roof on a Gazebo is to keep out the weather. The fact that a roof keeps out animals is incidental to it's actual purpose, which, as the article says, is to protect the contents from the weather. Rather than just doggedly re-applying your edit, you need to discuss it here and put forward your reasons. If we cannot reach consensus, then there is an arbitration process that can be followed. That's the way you should go forward. SilentC (talk) 04:12, 7 March 2008 (UTC)


 * May I add to this that some roofs are also built specifically to keep birds and animals in rather than out. Amandajm (talk) 01:01, 8 March 2008 (UTC)

Amandajm, that is irrelevant/illogical, cuz some walls are used to keep animals in. so using your logic, does that mean that walls aren't used to keep animals out?? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.105.168.192 (talk) 02:21, 8 March 2008 (UTC)


 * The primary reason that a building has a roof is as weather protection, not as animal protection. Every sort of roof gives protection against weather of some sort. Protecting against animals is not the main purpose. The roof may be on a pigeon loft, barn or zoo building. The roof might be on an open verandah or shelter with no protection from animals at all. Please stop this persistent and very annoying editting. I think that you are simply a troll who is trying to upset people. Amandajm (talk) 07:00, 30 April 2008 (UTC)


 * Logically, one general function of a building envelope is to keep out pests. While roofs are usually a part of the building envelope and inherit this function, it is not specifically their distinctive function. On the other hand, many of the functions discussed in this article are also functions of an envelope. Roof become specialized because of their relative position as the top of the envelope, thus dealing with objects that mostly come through the top - for example, water and sun from above, or heat loss from below. (GreggEdwards (talk) 20:40, 1 January 2010 (UTC))

North-light Roof
I am really surprised that there isn't a mention of this roof type in WP. A north-light roof (not sure of the punctuation) has a distinctive 'sawtooth' profile, where the alternate slopes are dissimilar, and the steeper (northern) slopes are made of glass (references available from English Heritage and (fwiw) answers.com). It is specific to the Northern Hemisphere, particularly for industrial/railway premises, and was designed to permit maximum light ingress without glare/heat from the sun.

Could some knowledgeable person add in the relevant places please?

EdJogg (talk) 13:02, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Yeah Mate, we got 'em too. Only youse guys build 'em the wrong way round, under the misapprehension that the sun is in the south. Well, it's actually in the north isnit? and in mid summer, it's straight up! See pic Amandajm (talk) 14:48, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

Re pic of flexible pipe
This article is about roofs. The details of temporary drainage pipes used during construction doesn't belong on this page. The other pics are all landscape format, pictures of roofs. That picture did not fit, broke up the text and looked bad. Amandajm (talk) 13:54, 24 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Agreed; however I did re-inserted my half round-roof picture dough, as the article still lacks a picture of this roof-shape.

KVDP (talk) 19:18, 1 July 2008 (UTC)
 * There are so many pics that they are pushing the text down, when viewed on a wide monitor. I'll get back to this and put them into a series of small text-related galleries.Amandajm (talk) 06:45, 2 July 2008 (UTC)

Too many pictures/need more pictures.
This article contains too many pictures, they distract from it the writing. RyanTMulligan (talk) 22:57, 26 September 2008 (UTC)

One section that could use MORE pictures would be the types of roof section. Simple sketches would be perfect for clarifying this section. Emika22 (talk) 07:56, 14 July 2009 (UTC)


 * Please add pictures of roof section to the article Roof construction.

As for there being too many pics, The pics simply illustrate the different shapes and materials. This is a very broad article that tries to encompass a world-wide diversity. Amandajm (talk) 11:36, 14 July 2009 (UTC)

Bamboo roof
could bamboo roofs be mentioned or shown in article; will add picture soon
 * Please don't add the picture of bamboo roof construction to this article. This article only deals with construction minimally. and has no sections of a standard wooden roof.
 * Bamboo roofs are mentioned in this article, along with several other vernacular roof types. It doesn't deal with any type of roof in detail. Write a separate article on bammboo roofs and add the detailed pics there. Then come back to this article, read through it till you find the reference to bammboo roofs and form an internal link.
 * Amandajm (talk) 11:36, 14 July 2009 (UTC)
 * The mention of bamboo roofs refered only to the structure. I have added a mention of bamboo as an outer covering. Amandajm (talk) 11:44, 14 July 2009 (UTC)

Rooves or roofs
It would be good to include mention that the old grammatically correct plural "rooves" has been losing out to "roofs". 78.149.201.215 (talk) 13:37, 27 February 2010 (UTC)

What about open rooftops?
With swimming pools or large patios on them? Is there an article that shows these? John Hyams (talk) 19:21, 13 March 2010 (UTC)


 * Flat roofs are mentioned here. I will expand this a bit. There needs to be an article that deals with this, specifically. Have a search. Amandajm (talk) 02:25, 14 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Flat roof is linked in the article. Amandajm (talk) 02:35, 14 March 2010 (UTC)

Corrugated sheets of asbestos lightly coated with cement are common in Latin America. In the Latin country I know the best (Brazil) asbestos may no longer legally, but rooves of that type are so widespread that they are going to be in place for some time. Given our geographical closeness to Latin America and the presence of Latins among Wikipedia's potential readers in the United States, it would be good to include Latin America in an article. These sheets are cheaper than ceramic roof tiles, which of course look better. Reader_ Archibald M. Woodruff archibaldmw yahoo.com My stupid computer won\t do the "at" right now. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.2.106.12 (talk) 16:00, 7 August 2010 (UTC)


 * Added a section within the body of the text, not in the list of current commercially available materials. Amandajm (talk) 04:13, 9 August 2010 (UTC)

Ice dams
Moved material from ice dam to new section here: Roof. Vsmith (talk) 16:52, 26 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Removed. It was much to much detail about just one aspect of roofing for it to be dealt with within the generic roof article which covers roofs of every possible type across the whole world.

Amandajm (talk) 03:53, 15 March 2011 (UTC)

Merger of Pitched roof with this article
No: an examination of the edit history of this article will indicate to you that this article was previously very much longer, and that the descriptions of:
 * roof shapes,
 * commercial roofing materials
 * have now been moved to two separate articles.

Hence, the detailed description of one roof type does not belong here. Its brief description belongs at List of roof shapes. On the other hand, detailed descriptions of the various most significant roof types warrant their own pages. Pitched roofs are a major type of roof.

Amandajm (talk) 03:50, 15 March 2011 (UTC)

Opposed Ditto Jim.henderson (talk) 01:44, 16 March 2011 (UTC)

Where is the article for the most common roof?
I mean this should be gable roof (formerly "saddle roof"), but it's a redirect to an ornamental wall! *lol*  → User: Perhelion 12:49, 7 September 2016 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 5 February 2017
The plural of roof is 'rooves' not roofs. 'Roofs' is colloquial, meaning it is accepted, but it is not correct. 75.166.127.117 (talk) 02:28, 5 February 2017 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made.  JTP (talk • contribs) 03:14, 5 February 2017 (UTC)

Term for atmosphere-protective member between attic and the outside?
There must be a term for the atmosphere-protective member that separates attic from the outside. In the Russian language крыша means supports and this protective member and кровля means the protective structure. What is this term? Outer layer? Flooring? Decking? Sheathing? Roof skin? Roof cladding? The article calls it outer layer, but it can also mean the outer layer of that protective member, if it has several layers. E.g. shingles. I propose calling it roof cladding. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 172.103.152.247 (talk) 19:04, 15 May 2020 (UTC)