Talk:Roppongi

comments revert
Sorry I don't get why my comments in the Night Life section were reverted as speculation There are numerous articles around the roppongi Yakuza associations with various and buildings and clubs in roppongi I have included some english external links to recent articles

The problems with touts in roppongi particularly on the street around donki is also well know and highlighted in the external references I have given. There are also articles in Japanese about this.

I have been in tokyo of the last 10 years and lived in roppongi for the past 6. Over this time I have seen "My High touch town" change.

Notable events were the opening of Roppongi Hills followed by Midtown. The Roppongi hills revolving door death. The Lehman Shock. The closure and drama around clubs like vanilla, valfara, alife The place has interesting cultural history from the bubble party land discos and its all worth being documented here. --Aliveonearth (talk) 16:23, 7 September 2010 (UTC)

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I'd just like to point out that these days many of the higher class clubs will let foreigners into them.

You do need to speak Japanese though; it wouldn't be much fun at all, seeing as Hostess bars are all about talking.

Its also worth mentioning that Roppongi has many 'clubs' that offer more than just talk. There is a thriving sex industry in Roppongi and you can go from lap dances where you can touch as much as you like, all the way to "full service".

INAPPROPRIATE- This is not an advertizing board.

--perfectblue 14:15, 8 August 2006 (UTC)

Line Removal
I'm thinking about removing the line "Or perhaps, because their salaries are too low as to permit them to patronize most of Roppongi's establishments." from the Nightlife section. Besides being gramatically incorrect, it strikes me as somewhat mean-spirited and unnecessary. Any thoughts before I remove it? --Sarfa 02:11, 16 February 2006 (UTC)

you know, i came to the talk page exactly because of this line. it seems opinionated, and slightly too copied straight from a guide book. i spent quite some time in japan, and while i had enough money to go around, i almost never went to roppongi, not because it'd be too expensive, but simply because the high levels of testosterone oozing through the streets from the regular patrons of the bars there was way too much for my system too handle. i vote yea on removing the line. better yet, i'll remove it myself, right now. oh, by the way, the line is grammatically correct, as far as i can tell. 213.172.234.247 20:52, 26 February 2006 (UTC)

Thank you for removing it. The sentence is a fragment, by the way. --Sarfa 22:06, 28 February 2006 (UTC)

Line Removal Pt 2
Is it really necessary to have "and hosts Tokyo's most overhyped afterhours on Sunday mornings"?

More importantly, should we be using "overhyped" if we're trying to be impartial? -- —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.149.182.195 (talk • contribs)

I agree. The whole article is rife with "Lonely Planet"-like quips and phrases that are in no way impartial (after all, the whole point of a guide book is to be partial and recommend the best places to go) and do not really have a place here. Unfortunately, I do not have the time at the moment to devote to a massive re-write, so I'm willing to let most of it go for now and simply remove or edit only those places that are the most inappropriate.-Sarfa 17:23, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

The most recent edit by User:Sekicho left a non-sentence:
 * "Although the area was trafficked for centuries and served as the site of the cremation of Shogun Tokugawa Hidetada's wife in 1626, [1]"

I cannot determine from the edit history what the second clause of the sentence should be. Also, what does "trafficked" mean in reference to a place? Do you mean there was much traffic through the area? Your edit also removes some seemingly relevant and interesting information:
 * "Roppongi was a simple crossing of two streets until after the Meiji Restoration when it became a quartering area for the Imperial Japanese Army."

-Pgan002 18:14, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

Removing uncited weasel words & dubious anecdote
This weasel-worded sentence has no place in the article - "while many English teachers and western academics living in Japan reportedly avoid the district, believing Roppongi's atmosphere to be "inauthentic" and "shallow"."

Also, this text is about as unencyclopedic as it can get - "Western celebrities and musicians are often spotted in Roppongi and anecdotal evidence suggests that they are more approachable here than they would be back in their "home" countries."

172.168.198.38 01:18, 15 September 2006 (UTC)

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Nogizaka station
So I removed Nogizaka station because it's not in Roppongi, and it was put back. Fair, I understand the reasons. However I'd like to push against it's inclusion. Putting Nogizaka station in this list implies it's in Roppongi when it is not. It may be right on the border, but it's actually in Minami Aoyama (just check the address of the station 東京都港区南青山1-25-8.) Since it's address is not in Roppongi, but the next district over, and nothing on the station's website mentions Roppongi I don't believe we can include it. To say it serve Roppongi, while perhaps true though it's an extremely low use station, is not supported and is original research on our behalf. Canterbury Tail talk 12:21, 12 April 2018 (UTC)


 * Funny, I notice that Google Maps seems to have no trouble including it as part of Roppongi.


 * The Tokyo Metro link you give is misleading: it says nothing about Roppongi, but it also says almost nothing about anything at all except basic station information. Strangely, you seem to have overlooked the link on that very page to "area information" (https://www.enjoytokyo.jp/area/10/1002/115516/?__ngt__=TT0e2d5dd99004ac1e4a5b49zddDGpUnpD---FyCVVTPBg) which DOES mention quite a bit about Roppongi and things to do. Why, it's almost like Tokyo Metro thinks Nogizaka Station serves Roppongi.


 * The simplest Google search turns up numerous guides to Roppongi mentioning Nogizaka Station. Various books and guide said seem to be using the facts on the ground, as opposed to the almost arbitrary use of a street address.


 * In Wikipedia itself, the Meguro article mentions Meguro Station, despite the fact that it's not in Meguro. The Shinagawa article mentions Shinagawa Station, despite the fact that it's not in Shinagawa. Now, by your logic, we should be removing mention of those stations purely based on street address, because, after all, that implies that they're in Meguro and Shinagawa when they're not: do you plan to do so? --Calton | Talk 14:03, 12 April 2018 (UTC)


 * Okay, fair, you've convinced me. This is why I wanted a conversation about it. Canterbury Tail talk 14:16, 12 April 2018 (UTC)