Talk:Rose–Hulman Institute of Technology/Archive 1

Clean Up
Any suggestions for what exactly needs cleaned up? Sanctumsolitude 21:26, 1 March 2006 (UTC)
 * There's a lot of unnecessary information that could be condensed in my opinion. Also, I think this presidential infobox is getting awfully wide.  Too many more long-named presidents and we're going to be in trouble. -Wiccan Quagga 08:04, 20 March 2006 (UTC)

I don't see any presidential infobox. I think it would be appropriate to have at least a list of their names and years of their terms. That information (up to 2004) is located on pp 14-17 of the Spring 2004 "Echoes" magazine: http://www.rose-hulman.edu/media/1116616/Spring-2004.pdf (Presidents after that time are already in the article.) Almadenmike (talk) 07:38, 11 September 2014 (UTC)

The information concerning Rose-Hulman Ventures was beginning to get dated (circa 2005) Using facts and figures from 2009 it has been updated. dtd:1-27-2010

Clean Up
The Wiki link to Robert Bright, chairman of the Board and 2006 interim president is the wrong Robert Bright - this guy died in 1988! It should be Robert E. Bright, RH alum, former chair of RH board, former 3M VP, resides in Austin, TX. 11-13-2014

Current events
(new) hey, maybe someone can put up photos of all the residence halls currently available? with some few history backgrounds.
 * This might make the article a bit too image heavy. If someone wants to take the initiative of breaking off a new article that has the history and images of residence halls...but I don't know if that would be good/necessary because all the info can be found on the RHIT webpage. However, if anyone wants more pictures of the campus and some of the buildings, I took all the pictures on http://www.rose-hulman.edu/Users/groups/Facilities/HTML/departments/construction/projects/projects_main.htm excepting the ones of the Flame of the Millennium and Hatfield Hall and give permission to use any and all. MaKaM 01:24, 25 August 2006 (UTC)

Does this really belong here, or should it be moved to a few Wikinews articles? -Yipdw 03:28, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
 * We could certainly have a Wikinews article on it, but it seems likely that what is going on now will form a future part of the Rose-Hulman Institute of Technology section. Compare this to the no confidence vote of Lawrence Summers at Harvard University. Cmprince 20:40, 12 May 2005 (UTC)

General Remarks
I have made tons of changes to the page. So far it looks tons better visually. If anyone has anything to add go right ahead. I did re insert the list of clubs at Rose in the student life section. - Feb 19th, 2006
 * Looking good, although I rather liked how the infobox of the Presidents added to the visual flow to the page. --CzarB 00:55, 20 February 2006 (UTC)
 * The problem was, if you hide the contents and did other changes to the actual size of your browser, the infobox could cut off portions of lower articles since it is physically limited by the infobox and picture above it. I went ahead and added it back in, who closes the contents thing anyway?

This page still needs some more information. I haven't been on campus in a while, so I can't write much about the campus, except for what's on the website. Pictures would be good too, if anyone has them. Also, the list of presidents has a long gap during WW2; anyone know why? --Cmprince 21:43, 4 Dec 2004 (UTC)
 * Yes. That bothered me too.  It turns out there was a typo in the page you cited .  Donald Prentice's dates were actually 1931-1948 (see ).  That still leaves a gap of a few years from 1928 to 1931.  Presumably, we went without a president during that time?  -Wiccan Quagga 08:04, 20 March 2006 (UTC)


 * maybe we should put a map of RHIT in relation to USA

Etc

 * how is the current rhit wiki article reads like an ad?

amazing improvement. wow, hope i can be of help. :)

A few points that should probably be cleared up: -- Craig Buchek 15:36, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * I believe the campus is technically outside the Terre Haute city limits. It was when I went there (1989-1992). And [] seems to say as much.
 * There was at least 1 woman student before 1995. She was a graduate student. For some reason, the rule against women only applied to undergraduates. I believe it had something to do with federal funding.
 * Anyone know the wattage of the old WMHD transmitter? I think it was 170 W. I used to joke that it was as powerful as 2 light bulbs.
 * It might be good to mention that the Hulman family are also involved with the Indy 500. I know that that was why they said that graduation weekend always fell on the same weekend as the Indy 500, so people coming in from out of town could make just 1 trip.
 * I didn't see any mention of quarters/tri-mesters. (Not sure if it still is.)
 * Heavily computer-integrated curricula started in 1989 or 1990.
 * Should mention that it's a land-grant college, and thus must have ROTC program and military classes.

Craig:
 * In or around '91, Terre Haute was expanded to include Rose (as I recall). I think Rose got bus service out of the deal.
 * There is no bus service on campus '07 --RaydenUni 23:15, 27 January 2006 (UTC)
 * Said, there was for a while in the early 90's (MWB'92)
 * My recolection was that WMHD was 75 Watts.
 * Is it really a land-grant? Never knew that.  Do you have a cite?

-- Mark Brehob (class of '92)


 * I think the city expanded before the 1990 census. It let the city count the 1000+ people on campus, and they also expanded out the other direction to include the federal prison.  I don't remember that RHIT got anything out of it.  Maybe E911 service?  There was a rumor that the 5500 address was going to go away around that time because it was inaccurate, but, we obviously managed to hold on to it.   Also, that's the first I heard about being a land grant too.   Neier 00:38, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

The paragraph "In 1917, . . . . 123 acres (0.5 km²) of farm land on U.S. 40 donated by the Hulman family of Terre Haute. For their gift and continued financial support, Rose-Polytechnic was renamed Rose-Hulman Institute of Technology in the family's honor." is not completely accurate. The name was changed in 1971 when Tony Hulman donated the Hulman Foundation to the school. And yes, the Hulman family has been a generous and longterm benefactor to the school.

-- Smith ('73, 2 years Rose Polytechnic, 2 years Rose-Hulman)

At the time I DJ'd at WMHD in 1986 to 1988, it was 150 watts. I distinctly remember many DJs referring to "150 million microwatts of raw, unadulterated power" on air. -- DRH

The original WMHD FCC license was 160 watts. To be safe, the instructions at the time were to set the transmitter to 50% power, or 150W of the 300W transmitter that was there at the time. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 63.164.151.10 (talk) 22:01, 10 March 2009 (UTC)

Craig: --Kentmoraga (talk) 18:10, 22 March 2010 (UTC)
 * I believe the rule was that women could enroll in classes, but could not be awarded a degree. When I was there ('76 - '81) there were a couple ISU women who did this.

Information for the student section
Along the same lines as mentioning women recently being admitted one of the more prominent facts and figures that I always hear thrown around about Rose is the gender ratio skewed in having more guys than girls. Also known as "the golden ratio" for girls and inspiring quotes like, "the odds are good, but the goods are odd." It's hardly a selling point but it certainly does affect the social environment and student life.--BigCow 06:08, 12 July 2005 (UTC)

Fraternities/sororities
My edit to the "Greek Life and Honor Societies" section was deleted:
 * A group of Rose-Hulman students also make up a fraternal organization called Adelphia which has a house off campus and functions much like a fraternity although it is not a part of the institute's interfraternity council. 

While Adelphia is not one of the 8 fraternities officially associated with Rose-Hulman. It has been an active group for 5 years now and hosts a membership of over 50 students as well as an active alumni association. Adelphia is a noteworthy aspect of Rose-Hulman's student life. The Rose-Hulman Newspaper, The Rose Thorn, wrote an article on Adelphia in October of 2006 and Adelphia was the nominator of the 2006 Rose-Hulman Homecoming Queen Erin O'Connor   Adelphia has continued recruiting new members and is currently comprised of Rose-Hulman students from every class who take their association just as seriously as any of the other fraternities do. While Adelphia certainly isn't an honor society it certainly does fall under the category of Greek Life. I'll be re-adding the line soon. HarvestHawkins (talk) 01:08, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

This line was just added:
 * A majority of students join the Greek system.

Is there a source for this? This sounds absurd, certainly gauging by my own time there not so long ago. Cmprince 17:26, 15 September 2005 (UTC)
 * There is no quoted source, so I'm reverting the change. The author of the change is welcome to provide a citation. -Yipdw 19:47, 16 September 2005 (UTC)


 * I know I've seen the percentages somewhere recently. I can't recall where though. While many people say a majority of the students go greek, the percentages I saw said about 40% go greek.

The recent edit:
 * Rose-Hulman's greek life is quite different from that of other colleges and universities, and nearly 50% of students are members of a greek organization . The Greek System provides opportunities for students to grow outside of the classroom, in leadership, social skills, character and other attributes.

...seems a bit NPOV, as well as insubstantiated. We should find a better source for the statistic (the current one seems to be an opinions article or letter to the editor) and find a source for how our greek life is so different. I don't know other universities, but I don't really see how our fraternities are any different. Also, we might want to put in something about the sorority/female fraternity issue. -GregoryWeir 06:10, 27 November 2005 (UTC)

Here is a relevant citation: http://www.rose-hulman.edu/admissions/studentlife/greeklife.htm Anthius 23:38, 15 May 2006 (UTC)

Residence Halls

 * Deming no longer houses upperclassmen in the attic. Excluding the RA's and SA's it is entirely freshman.137.112.141.112 06:24, 21 February 2006 (UTC)Justin Larson
 * ?!? When did that change? --CzarB 06:46, 21 February 2006 (UTC)
 * Last year -Wiccan Quagga 05:56, 11 March 2006 (UTC)
 * There are upperclassmen in D attic again now. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 137.112.150.87 (talk) 03:57, 4 October 2009 (UTC)


 * When did rooms in Skinner contain 3 bedrooms as cited by the article? When I was there (a few years ago) they were two bedrooms for four people total and a kitchen, bathroom, and living room for each unit. Four units in three sections with a shared laundry room in the middle. Have they renovated? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.38.163.39 (talk • contribs) 14:26, August 23, 2006
 * I am told that when Skinner was built, the apartments had 3 bedrooms. One bedroom in each was later converted into a kitchen. —  Aluvus  t/ c  19:31, 23 August 2006 (UTC)
 * When I was there in '98, it was three bedrooms per apartment. I hadn't heard about kitchens being put in. Cmprince 21:00, 23 August 2006 (UTC)
 * As of 2004, they had been remodeled (I think in 2000?) to be the two bedroom configuration described above. I'll redo that section of the article. MaKaM 01:14, 25 August 2006 (UTC)
 * When I was living in Skinner in 2000 it was three bedrooms, but the smallest bedroom (which I was in, sigh) had a cover over pipes and such, so it looks like it was maybe originally designed as 2 beds + kitchen, converted to 3 bed, then apparently converted back?
 * Apartments are technically two residence halls, according to Hayes (assistant dean of student affairs).cooldudefx (talk) 23:17, 2 December 2009 (UTC)

Lists and figures
I have taken the liberty of removing a bunch of lists and figures and things, because I didn't think they were relevant to a general purpose encyclopedia article. This is how the article looked with them still in place. None of this is final, so if you think they should be added back, go ahead, but discuss here first. -Wiccan Quagga 01:59, 18 July 2005 (UTC)

Association of Independent Technological Universities
AIUT seems to be a rather elusive group of educations. I'm finding alot of references to "my college is a member" but not much in the way of "membership means XYZ". Does anyone have a link to the organization, or it's reason for existence? --CzarB 07:05, 21 February 2006 (UTC)

Mostly, they share info. with one another. Schools try to norm themselves to each other's salaries, benefits, tuition discount, etc. JJL 15:38, 21 February 2006 (UTC)

I added it as a way of users to quickly jump between the presitgious engineering schools...

Accreditation of computer science?
In the accreditation section is states that programs younger than 7 years old aren't yet accredited, which includes Computer Science. RHIT had a CS department and degree program in the 1999-2000 school year, so this seems to not be right, but perhaps the author meant something different? 69.243.166.247 23:09, 20 May 2006 (UTC)

Clean Up / Copy Edit / Advertisement
As of now, it appears that none of these apply. Unless specific information is given as to what exactly these apply to, I am suggesting removal of these tags. I would like to know what others think before that step is taken. Also, if there is anything that needs changing, please list it here so it can be taken care of. --24.22.5.172 17:26, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
 * I added the tags before a lot of other edits. I didn't want to remove them myself without some other input. That said, college pages can be a magnet for hagiography, and I hope further edits are written with a WP:NPOV. -Cmprince 18:26, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

It is an excellent reminder, especially on college wikipedia entries where a sense of pride can interfere with the purpose of the entry. With that being said, I have removed the tags with your blessing. Let any additional discussion continue here.--24.22.5.172 18:47, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

Football→New article?
I've noticed an increase in information posted about the RHIT football team recently. While it does have some inherent value, it doesn't fit in the context of an article about Rose-Hulman. The rest of the athletic section is in keeping with the brief overview of the different aspects of the school, while the football is too in-depth. I suggest that, if this material is to be retained, it be split into a new article "Rose-Hulman Athletics" and expanded upon there--along with other sports. I would be willing to help flesh out the Athletics article, but not create it. If no action is taken in a few weeks, I will consider revising the current RHIT article to make the football section more in keeping with the balance. DogcatcherDrew 17:48, 7 February 2007 (UTC)
 * I'm going to remove the timeline because it is copy of this page with a few of the dates omitted. And to what documents do the references to (Lanke 2006) and (Lanke 2007) refer?  Did the author write a research paper on this subject and simply paste it into the article?  I'd say (at least) 90% of this stuff is better suited for a media guide and should be removed.

-Wiccan Quagga 07:14, 25 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Agree, this should be removed. --Hobit 19:01, 1 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Actually, I just did a major edit rather than waiting. I think a separate article would make more sense.--Hobit 19:05, 1 March 2007 (UTC)

Noted alumni
Wiccan Quagga: Why did you remove Lawrence Giacoletto? Us EE's had respect for the man! http://www.ieee-sem.org/node/159
 * Sorry. He's back. Wiccan Quagga 00:46, 14 August 2007 (UTC)

Camp Retupmoc?
Anyone remember Rose's Camp Retupmoc, from the 1970's and '80? ("Retupmoc" = "Computer" spelled backwards :-P ) Is it worthy to mention it in this article? --Kentmoraga (talk) 18:01, 22 March 2010 (UTC)

Art
For a long time there was a 3-breasted iron sculpture near the dining hall that I think was supposed to be an African fertility goddess. Iconic of RHIT for several decades, if anyone has a picture of it, it really should be included...along with any specifics as to what it really was.

--Kentmoraga (talk) 18:12, 22 March 2010 (UTC)

Reads like an advertisement
This article reads to me like an advertisement for the school / a list of the amenities it offers - in particular, the section on the sculptures (plenty of unis have sculptures and the like on campus, is this really worth including in a wiki article?) and the section on the performing arts, which reads "The performing arts at Rose–Hulman have a wide base of support."

I will be making some minor edits to improve the tone and make it a little more objective, but I think a discussion should take place before I remove anything major. Ultrauber (talk) 04:17, 17 July 2014 (UTC)

The dash in the name
Is it really a –, or is it supposed to be just a - that's somehow been extended? --Anonymous, 22:55, 10 May 2010 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.190.45.211 (talk)
 * Sure looks like an m-dash to me. I don't know how to fix this. Ultrauber (talk) 04:18, 17 July 2014 (UTC)

Rose-Hulman Fightin' Engineers
 Support split - Athletics section is getting long, and should be split to a new article entitled Rose-Hulman Fightin' Engineers. --Jax 0677 (talk) 18:55, 25 August 2017 (UTC)