Talk:Rose Hill (Port Tobacco, Maryland)

Addtional details on Brown
Ancestry of Frances Fowke. More ancesters/relationships of Brown/Fowke.

Tedickey (talk) 13:39, 29 November 2007 (UTC)

Relationship between Brown and Floyd
The sources are obscure and contradictory. Some additional sources give some insight, but still incomplete.

Here are some links and comments:
 * Ignatius Semmes born 1773

Refers to an Ignatius Semmes born in 1773 of Anthony and Mary. (Curious if this is the same "Semmes" as in the next cite - but 5 years different?).


 * older/younger Semmes born/died dates, as well as a Mary Semmes at Rose Hill

The interesting pieces here are: 22. SEMMES, IGNATIUS Son of Ensign Robert Doyne Semmes and Mary Ryan. August 22, 1778 - January 2, 1826. Probably buried here next to his wife, Mary Holmes Semmes (#22). See The Maryland Semmes and Allied Families by Newman.

23. SEMMES, IGNATIUS (JR.) Youngest son of Mary Holmes (#24) and Ignatius Semmes (#22). September 6, 1821 – April 27 to June 13 1843. Died without issue. Probably buried here near his mother.

24. SEMMES, MARY HOLMES Born about 1777. Died June 9, 1825. Daughter John Holmes and Eleanor Neale (sister of Father Charles Neale). Ignatius junior was the last born and only survivor of 13 children. Mary Holmes Semmes died at 48. Perhaps the gravestone should be "August 22, 1773" for Semmes senior.

CHAPTER 52.
 * Semmes and Brown in 1819

Ad act to incorporate a Company under the name of The Hydrant Company of Port Tobacco. Sec 1. Be it enacted by the General Assembly of Maryland, That John B. Wills, Jr. John Ferguson, William Vincent, Basil Spal- ding, Nicholas Stonestreet, Samuel Chapman, Edward Pye, Ig- natius Semmes, William Penn, Gustavus Brown, and John Mere- dith, be and they are hereby incorporated and made a body politic, That sounds as if Brown junior and Semmes senior were well acquainted.


 * comment on Semmes will in 1826

Photocopy of will of Ignatius Semmes (1843) bequeathing his table silver to St. Ignatius Church MITCHELL VS. HOLMES. 289
 * Semmes junior died 1843 - note on will to St. Ignatius Church
 * comment on Semmes will 1843

of opinion, that during the life of William Holmes, the uncle of the testator, and of his aunt, Sarah Floyd, the income should be divided between them in equal moieties; and that the title of the children of the aunt, to participate in the income of the trust estate, is postponed until after the death of the uncle. With regard to the proper application of the income, during the joint lives of the uncle and aunt, there does not seem to me to be much difficulty, it beiqg clearly the intention of the testator to divide it equally between them.

In the event of the death of the uncle, living the aunt, a question of some difficulty might arise respecting the proportions in which, upon that contingency, the income of the estate should be divided among the aunt and her children; but as this con- tingency may not happen, there does not appear to be any ne- cessity for an expression of the opinion of the court upon it. As the case is submitted without argument, there seems to be af peculiar propriety in confining the opinion of the court, to the questions which the condition of the case at this time, ren- ders important. The will was executed in April, 1843, and the testator died soon afterwards. By it he gives freedom to several of his slaves, to each of whom he bequeathed a pecuniary legacy of three hundred dollars The decision of the question raised by the pleadings in this case depends upon the construction which should be given to the will of Ignatius Semmes, deceased, or rather, to the follow- ing clause of that will, for, as it seems to me, the other parts of the will throw no light upon the subject. The clause in question is as follows: "I give and devise to Walter Mitchell, Esq., my farm called Rose Hill, together with all the rest of my negroes, stock of every description, and plantation utensils, ... (page 163) This bill is filed by William Holmes, the uncle of the testator, to whom, together with his aunt Sarah Floyd, the income of the trust estate was given for life Walter Mitchell is not the uncle, but a business associate.
 * comment on Semmes will 1843
 * comment on Semmes will

Date: 1847/06/24 8297: William Holmes vs. Walter Mitchell, John B. Piet, Mary Piet, Sarah Floyd, Oliver Floyd, and Robert S. Floyd. CH. Estate of Ignatius Semmes - Rose Hill. Accession No.: 17,898-8297-1/2 MSA S512-10-8276 Location: 1/38/3/ Tedickey 00:34, 15 October 2007 (UTC)
 * comment on Semmes will and "Oliver Floyd"

Bibliography for Floyd
google has a preview for part of this Tedickey (talk) 23:16, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

Leonard's book
It states that all of the material is from Kinchen's book - which is not readily available. Here are the relevant chunks from Leonard's book, noting that some errors are apparent:

Pages 67-68:

Arrested, or not?

 * National Register Listing for Saint Thomas Manor





Tedickey 00:28, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

Possibly-related topics
Tedickey 11:03, 21 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Raphael_Semmes

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