Talk:Rotwelsch

Other cants

 * Argot (France)
 * Cant (Great Britain)
 * Lunfardo (Argentina)


 * I removed this section because it was incomplete (only had 3 items) and its contents were already linked to via the Category:Cant languages.


 * If it is still thought useful to have such a list shouldn't it be complete? And then maintenance becomes the issue: which is why the category solution is best :) IMHO RCEberwein 15:49, 8 October 2006 (UTC)

Most of it is wrong
Compare it to the German Wikipedia ... it tells totally different things about the vocabulary of Rotwelsch! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.42.173.11 (talk) 02:58, 14 August 2008 (UTC)
 * For example see Rappen, https://de.wiktionary.org/wiki/berappen, https://www.dwds.de/wb/berappen, https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/An_Etymological_Dictionary_of_the_German_Language/Annotated/berappen for competing etymologies of "berappen".


 * In my view this casts all of the vocabulary entries in doubt. 85.76.17.167 (talk) 04:56, 24 July 2022 (UTC)

broken link
link to "http://linguistik.yauh.de/rotwelsch.html" is broken 217.85.78.133 21:48, 20 January 2007 (UTC)j.

removing POV tag with no active discussion per Template:POV
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the translation of Gaunersprache
as criminal language seems a little bit odd. A Gauner isn't per se a criminal, but somebody who isn't to be trusted - a potential criminal maybe, but more of an individual with a distinctive level of streetsmarts. He's also a traveller - not bound to land or a common family with all its ties - and earns his living by a variety of dealings, which are everything else than opaque for the average citizen. In short: every criminal could be called a Gauner to some degree, yet not all Gauners will become criminals. A successfull (by which I mean: real) Gauner won't even break the law of the land. Maybe a good comparison is the english con-artist? I know my comment lacks a better translation, but the word itself is scarcely used nowadays in a non-euphemistic or non-reminiscent manner. Perhaps rogues-langue? --78.52.34.110 (talk) 12:48, 15 September 2017 (UTC)
 * I've changed the translation to "crook," as that's the translation used on Wiktionary. -- 2600:1700:F901:430:55C3:7849:F673:CA8E (talk) 14:45, 8 April 2020 (UTC)

Purported Yiddish
What is written in Hebrew alphabet as purportedly "Kochemer" in the form of "חוכמער" is wrong.

It could be only rendered as Chukmer or maybe Chokamar or something like that, since "ח" is the letter "chet" (with a rasp fricative CH as in some dialetcs of German, not as in English affricate "ch" as in "church") and "כ" is "kaf". — Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.245.95.254 (talk) 04:22, 26 December 2021 (UTC)