Talk:Rough Trade Records

Maximo park
they where never on rough trade to my knowledge we'rnt they always on warp? 82.28.44.187 —Preceding signed but undated comment was added at 22:06, 14 September 2007 (UTC)

I just added some bands to the list —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.144.170.123 (talk • contribs)

Indie status
Is Rough Trade an indie label? It's listed on Sony/BMG's list of labels.


 * According to and, the German branch of Rough Trade was bought by Zomba Music Group in 1996, who were later bought by Sony/BMG.  But it seems that Rough Trade (UK) has remained independent (though I think they were owned by One Little Indian for a few years). --Vclaw 00:28, 31 December 2005 (UTC)
 * Sanctuary is billed as the UK's bigest Independent record label —Preceding unsigned comment added by 195.166.17.21 (talk • contribs)

OS bug
is it true that a bug in windows led to the bankrupcy? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Stentie (talk • contribs) 19:32, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

Recent edits
FormerIP, could you please refocus from adding list of bands (we have a list of rough trade artists already) and if you have to edit focus on the significance, trials and tribulations, achievements, character and blood of the label. There is a lot to be said beside this band that band bla. I assume you say the doc on the arts channel last night, and I'm tempted to revert you summarising of scraps from google. Ceoil (talk) 01:29, 30 October 2011 (UTC)
 * WE.ALREADY.HAVE.List of Rough Trade artists. Ceoil (talk) 02:30, 30 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Wikipedia is made out of scraps from Google. Please feel free to join in, but please don't mindlessly revert out of pure narcissism. It was on BBC4, BTW. --FormerIP (talk) 02:34, 30 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Whatever it was on, but I was right in my guess and you are a tourist. I added a lead, you might have noticed. And NO wiki is NOT made of merely scaps from google-what would be the point of that? But whatever surface work turns you on and gives you satisfaction. My mention of lists means nothing eh. Ceoil (talk) 03:04, 30 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Tourist? What, you mean there are people who live full-time inside record labels? Yeah, OK, I'll admit that Rough Trade is something that doesn't occupy my every waking moment. --FormerIP (talk) 03:36, 30 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Or any living moment before Friday night, it would seem. But yeah, grand, but please stop desecrating its sacred and hallowed wiki article with poorly sourced lists of band already in the banished "list of ...." page. Or at least add context as you go, rather than just regurgitate shit from google. Ceoil (talk) 00:14, 31 October 2011 (UTC
 * As a present to you for not being any sort of dickhead, I've revert all my edits to the article. I've also reverted yours, since they were even worse than mine, but feel free to add them back if you like. --FormerIP (talk) 01:08, 31 October 2011 (UTC)

I forget what was here before, and I haven't bothered to go thru the history. I've cleaned it up a little to make it a little less illiterate. Given the recent books on the topic we should be able to do better! Wwwhatsup (talk) 09:16, 31 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Agree with Wwwhatsup. FormerIP you'll never get to me with petulance, only with the quality of your edits, and I'll admit here and now that as you are warming and getting more familar with the article, are doing 'not bad at all'. You have to appreciate that list cruft is a big fear. Ceoil (talk) 11:58, 31 October 2011 (UTC)

Meaning of "rough trade"
See Wiktionary. Is this the origin of the record label's name? Why did they choose it? Equinox ◑ 02:43, 8 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Presumably the origin. A well-known phrase that I certainly knew 50 years ago. We couldn't really say why they chose it, unless they said, which I doubt they did. - Jmabel &#124; Talk 01:17, 24 February 2024 (UTC)

Chronology
Having successfully promoted and sold records by punk, very early indie pop and early post-punk bands such as The Smiths and Desperate Bicycles, Travis began to manage acts and distribute bands such as Scritti Politti and began the label, Hmm, isn't this a little out of order? RT early releases like Augustus Pablo and Metal Urbain predated Scritti a little, and The Smiths by years! Wwwhatsup (talk) 01:01, 2 August 2016 (UTC)]

agreed. the smiths didn't rock up at rough trade with HiG until fully six years after the bicycles made their debut. if that's the best we can do for an opening paragraph about one of the most famous indie record labels of all time, then we should fucking top ourselves out of shame. thank fuck there's books like "how soon is now?" to get the real story from. imagine if you hadn't been around at the time, & all you had to go on was this article- you'd be forgiven for thinking that the smiths had been around since seeing the sex pistols (along with 18,000 other people) at the lesser free trade hall, when in fact they went with RT to snub factory.

198.147.19.1 (talk) 13:47, 2 October 2020 (UTC)

Infobox problems
Not sure what's wrong with the talkbox; it would be helpful for someone to help fix it since I don't know what's up with it. Vibrioidxire (talk) 16:44, 26 February 2020 (UTC)

Bankruptcy
This briefly mentions the 1990 bankruptcy in the lede, but doesn't cite for it or give any details. Even less at Rough Trade (shops). Surely this should be covered somewhere. - Jmabel &#124; Talk 01:15, 24 February 2024 (UTC)