Talk:Rowan College of South Jersey/Archive 1

A bit of full disclosure...
I'm an adjunct professor (teaching 1 course, Human Biology) at GCC. In case anyone's worried about conflicts of interest, doing anything regarding GCC on Wikipedia is most definitely not part of my job description - in fact, the dean of my division/whatever wasn't aware that GCC had a Wikipedia page until I told her! I do not depend on income from GCC to survive, incidentally. Allens (talk) 20:59, 5 November 2011 (UTC)

Photography
I've found a set of CC-licensed photos of GCC at http://www.flickr.com/photos/39965300@N07/sets/72157623426355225/detail/, which I'll be working on downloading, uploading, and inserting (downsized versions of). Allens (talk) 14:08, 6 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Hi, please upload the original sizes to commons. The images look like they are appropriately licensed.  There is a tool to do most of the work for you, called the flickr upload bot.  Cheers.  --ChrisRuvolo (t) 15:03, 17 November 2011 (UTC)
 * OK, will do. There seemed to be some preference for recompressing the files before uploading, and I figured that as long as any editing was taking place, a bit more wouldn't be problematic. Allens (talk) 01:11, 18 November 2011 (UTC)
 * BTW, thank you for the wikimedia commons link - wasn't quite sure how to do it... Allens (talk) 02:08, 18 November 2011 (UTC)
 * No problem. AFAIK, the only request for low-resolution versions is for fair use uploads on the english wikipedia (such works are not acceptable on commons). --ChrisRuvolo (t) 15:32, 18 November 2011 (UTC)
 * I wasn't referring to low-resolution versions by "recompressing", but jpegtran - see Preparing_images_for_upload. Allens (talk) 16:08, 18 November 2011 (UTC)

Expansions?
There are several aspects in which expansions on the article are possible: I'm bringing these up here for a couple of reasons: Allens (talk) 13:44, 11 January 2012 (UTC)
 * The Center for People in Transition - for former-homemaker women (no provisions for househusbands seem present; this is something to mention) now needing to make it on their own:
 * http://www.gccnj.edu/student_services/people_in_transition/index.cfm
 * http://www.nj.com/gloucester-news/index.ssf/2012/01/gcc_offers_transition_workshop.html News coverage
 * http://www.dhnj.org/ - note About Us and links from there
 * http://www.state.nj.us/dca/divisions/dow/resources/dhcbycounty.html Displaced Homemaker Centers by county
 * Done. Allens (talk) 21:34, 5 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Discussion of winter courses, online courses, hybrid courses: http://www.nj.com/gloucester-county/index.ssf/2012/01/winter_classes_offer_chance_to.html News coverage
 * Done (to a moderate degree). Allens (talk) 18:36, 1 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Childcare: http://www.gccnj.edu/ce/ecec/index.cfm
 * Done (after locating a news article mentioning it). Allens (talk) 02:08, 2 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Women in Technology event: http://www.nj.com/gloucester-county/index.ssf/2012/01/gloucester_county_college_will_1.html News coverage
 * Another news report on the logistics course: http://www.nj.com/gloucester-county/index.ssf/2012/01/gcc_offers_introduction_to_log.html
 * Discussion of the Rowan/GCC partnership by NJ Senate President Stephen Sweeney: http://www.nj.com/gloucester-county/index.ssf/2011/12/sweeney_expand_rowan-gcc_partn.html
 * Done. Allens (talk) 08:18, 2 February 2012 (UTC)
 * More on very-low-cost ESL, GED classes (possibly mention their sponsorship, with Wikipedia links if available?):
 * http://njmonthly.com/events/18605.html
 * http://www.nj.com/gloucester-county/index.ssf/2011/12/gcc_offers_english_as_second_l_1.html
 * http://westdeptford.patch.com/articles/free-ged-prep-classes-at-gcc
 * http://www.nj.com/gloucester-county/index.ssf/2011/12/gcc_to_hold_classes_for_those.html
 * Listings of divisions, as per the style guide: see http://www.gccnj.edu/courier/academics/ for one source
 * Done. Allens (talk) 19:00, 1 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Listings of programs offered, again as per the style guide (not sure for source)
 * Listings of top majors: see http://www.gccnj.edu/academics/divisions_and_programs.cfm; note that Nursing is one of the top 10 despite being selective-admissions, although that's OR unless we can find something doing that bit of analysis
 * Done, as listing of top programs offered Allens (talk) 19:52, 3 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Library, again as per the style guide, noting connections with other Gloucester County and New Jersey libraries: see http://www.gccnj.edu/library/index.cfm and links from there
 * The Club Day - pictures are available on Commons, and searches turn up references in Beep Sheets & elsewhere
 * Material (statistics/reports/etc) from the Board of Trustees - this is unfortunately, while available to the public as per "sunshine" laws, not with very good links from outside the GCC Portal; I'll probably have to do this myself unless some GCC student wishes to step up...
 * Some comparisons between GCC and the other New Jersey County Colleges should be possible on things other than tuition (e.g., percentage of adjunct faculty)
 * Done. Allens (talk) 18:36, 1 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Material from Philly.com news reports (http://articles.philly.com/keyword/gloucester-county-college)
 * I have been advised (by Jimbo, as it happens) that it might be best practices for me to more suggest things than do them, to avoid any appearance of conflict of interest.
 * I'm worried the article is getting too long, but am not the best person at judging this.

2002 "tensions"
I can't find anything about these "tensions" in 2002, other than the cited-below material from a possibly-biased obituary:
 * Some tensions occurred between the faculty and administration in 2002. These were largely resolved through the efforts of the (late) president of the GCC Faculty Association, Dr. Lalaji S. Deshbandhu.


 * Well, I decided to put it back in in a "tensions" section, along with material on a threatened strike earlier.
 * Well, I decided to put it back in in a "tensions" section, along with material on a threatened strike earlier.

-- Allens (talk) 14:15, 1 February 2012 (UTC)

GOCE copy edit, May 2012
Just noting things as I come across them:
 * End of 2nd president's paragraph: "There was considerable dismay at GCC over these events, especially with accreditation renewal coming in spring 1987.[16]". FN16 appears not to mention accreditation renewal coming in spring 1987, though it does bear out the dismay. --Stfg (talk) 09:40, 4 May 2012 (UTC)
 * It does, actually - see the second page ("Not only does the college face a search for a new president in the midst of the allegations, it also anticipates an important accreditation evaluation in the spring by the Middle State Association of Colleges and Secondary Schools"). Does the second page of the article need a separate link? There unfortunately doesn't appear to be a single-page version. Allens (talk &#124; contribs) 12:12, 4 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Ah yes! Pages that have tiny little navigators to later pages is one of my favourite windmills when in tilting mood :) I'll make a link to page 2 later. --Stfg (talk) 14:11, 4 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Now done. --Stfg (talk) 18:30, 4 May 2012 (UTC)


 * Please note: I've nominated the "New Jersey County College" redirect as confusing - it looks like the name of a college rather than of a list, so I'll rephrase and pipe during the copy edit. The RfD is at WP:RFD. --Stfg (talk) 10:34, 4 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Whoops! I hadn't thought of the confusion issue - no problem. Allens (talk &#124; contribs) 12:16, 4 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Now deleted. Thanks for supporting the RfD. --Stfg (talk) 09:42, 5 May 2012 (UTC)


 * Lead: Community colleges in the United States doesn't define "public", so I've unlinked that. The list doesn't really need mentioning in and linking from the lead, I think. Otherwise, I'm planning to do the lead last. --Stfg (talk) 10:40, 4 May 2012 (UTC)
 * I wish there were a separate article from the list that discussed New Jersey County Colleges - it's a setup that's unique to NJ, at least within the US, as far as I can tell. Allens (talk &#124; contribs) 12:16, 4 May 2012 (UTC)
 * No harm in creating one, if you want ;) Actually, the list links "public" to public college, a redirect to public university. How about doing that here? --Stfg (talk) 14:11, 4 May 2012 (UTC)
 * I'd be reluctant to disturb a Featured List too much... good thought on linking "public" to public college - that works. Allens (talk &#124; contribs) 17:11, 4 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Done. I didn't mean to suggest tinkering with the FL, just that the unique setup by itself might deserve an article of its own. The list doesn't really cover it, does it? --Stfg (talk) 18:30, 4 May 2012 (UTC)


 * To explain the deletions from the first sentence of "Campus": there's little point saying three state highways if only two are identified, and describing two of them as "most notable" is slight editorialising. Better just to state what can be stated categorically. --Stfg (talk) 19:27, 4 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Understand - that's the sort of thing that I need an outside viewpoint for! I'm entirely too close to the article to see things like that... Allens (talk &#124; contribs) 00:18, 5 May 2012 (UTC)


 * "Buildings and usage" section, paragraph 2: a construction like "the Gloucester County Community Service Corps (Senior Corps)" is not really prose -- more like what one might write in a ledger or suchlike. The problem is that the relationship between the two things is left ambiguous. Senior Corps is an American thing, unknown in the UK and probably elsewhere in the English-speaking world, so I cannot reliably clarify this one. Please would you do so? --Stfg (talk) 20:28, 4 May 2012 (UTC)
 * I've attempted to do so; thanks for pointing it out! Allens (talk &#124; contribs) 00:18, 5 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks, it's clear now. --Stfg (talk) 09:42, 5 May 2012 (UTC)


 * "Off-campus sites" section: I'm a little puzzled by "most (aside from classes taken at GCC's main campus)". Does it mean that really most of them are at GCC? ;) --Stfg (talk) 10:05, 5 May 2012 (UTC)

Requested move

 * The following discussion is an archived discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review. No further edits should be made to this section. 

The result of the move request was: moved. History that was previously located at the proposed title will be moved to Rowan College of Gloucester County and turned into a redirect, anything that needs to be merged can be done so by looking the history there. Jenks24 (talk) 11:38, 15 July 2014 (UTC)

Gloucester County College → Rowan College at Gloucester County – The official name of the academic institution formerly known as Gloucester County College is now "Rowan College at Gloucester County" (, among more sources). However, a newbie editor who doesn't understand about page moving and edit history preservation created a brand new article, Rowan College at Gloucester County, which should just be the GCC article under a new name. Nothing is different about the school (for Wikipedia's purposes) other than official name change, thus that should be the target article. Jrcla2 (talk) 18:43, 7 July 2014 (UTC)


 * Support Move The original article is much more robust and contains a complete edit history. The target is the correct name for the school. Alansohn (talk) 18:49, 7 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Support Move/Re-name and merge of appropriate info box and pertinent references to renamed article, and deletion of extraneous new page. Djflem (talk) 21:38, 7 July 2014 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page or in a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.