Talk:Roy S. Neuberger

Merger proposal
I feel that while both this article and the "Central Park" article have lots of references, they are really playing on the same notability. Neuberger is (possibly) notable for his work with Hineni and his book is notable because it records his life. The book should be a subsection of his life as a biography. Joe407 (talk) 11:36, 13 July 2009 (UTC)


 * You'd have a strong point if both the original ("Central Park") book and the author (Roy S) were each advancing in lock step. From the public information it would seem NOT.  A divergence seems to be happening : "Central" is going in one direction and the author's WRITING focus in another. PROOF?
 * If you search here for "Natan" and then look here, it would seem that Roy S. is doing fiction; 2 reviews of book#3 (2020 Vision) also highlight this.
 * By contrast, the translation efforts (Hebrew,Russian) seem to focus on "Central" (for Kiruv).
 * Wikipedia pages are meant to accomodate change. The Roy S. page is best for his future writings and even perhaps for a bit more about his Worldstorm & 2020 Vision books.  Kiruv use of "Central Park" (3 English printings, to date) suggests that THIS book be allowed its own space. Dad7 (talk) 08:30, 14 July 2009 (UTC)

Dad7, After taking a break for a few days and rereading the "Central Park" article, I still feel that it is not notable, might even be CSD G11 for pure promotion, and at the least should be merged into the author's article. Yes, WP pages are meant to accommodate change and if in the future the "Central Park" section of the "Roy" article needs to be broken out to its own article it can be done easily. Right now I don't see the justification for two articles. BTW, I've also asked for a WP:3O. Joe407 (talk) 05:23, 15 July 2009 (UTC)


 * First, I heavily rewrote both articles. I removed the snippet that seemed inappropriate, the WP:OR text that was everywhere, and generally non-notable parts. The Country Yossi list is heavily non-notable, as the site itself isn't even that notable. Honestly, though, I don't think that there's anything on that article that really merits inclusion anywhere. There isn't much text there to justify its own article, and the book doesn't strike me as inherently notable enough to receive a sizable portion of the Neuberger article. So maybe it's worth considering an AfD for it? &mdash;  Hello Annyong  (say whaaat?!) 17:29, 16 July 2009 (UTC)


 * Actually, now that I think about it, maybe just a redirect from that article to this one would be more appropriate. What do you think? &mdash;  Hello Annyong  (say whaaat?!) 17:34, 16 July 2009 (UTC)

Watching the heavy editing here has been impressive. The solution may be to merge them with a section on Central park, provided we can show it notability in use (such as use for Hineini or other org.). Joe407 (talk) 05:41, 17 July 2009 (UTC)

Update: I'm going to put "Central Park" up for deletion. Joe407 (talk) 08:28, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

Heavy edits
Alright, I made a bunch of really heavy edits to turn this into an actual Wikipedia article. This article is not a vanity page, nor a fansite for Neuberger; we are supposed to portray him with a neutral tone. I think notability has been established here, though. I'll weigh in on the merger proposal. &mdash;  Hello Annyong  (say whaaat?!) 17:13, 16 July 2009 (UTC)

Soul search
As soon as I began to read "From Central Park to Sinai" I began to ask myself, what about finding my (Jewish) soul?, because even with all that kind writing and good philosophy, I have not managed to locate it. It may well be due to how I was brought up with a Zionist background and although I now live in Israel and one could rightly claim it originally was for religious reasons, to "meet with G-d" as Roy does, seems to me to be a poor criterion for this quest to succeed. Even on Yom Kippur, my fasting that is supposed to afflict it creates no response that I can detect. Incidentally, the copy that I have is an author's signed one for Dina Malke Rina, so presumably she too is still searching.Macrocompassion (talk) 14:04, 10 August 2021 (UTC)