Talk:Royal Danish Air Force

Pre-1950?
While the current air force may have been formed in 1950, Denmark operated military aircraft back to the early years of the first world war, and yet no mention whatsoever has been of this prior (and very relevant) history, which either should be on this page, or on a linked page mentioned in the opening paragraph.NiD.29 (talk) 00:15, 11 May 2012 (UTC)
 * It is mentioned in the second and third paragraph in the History-section that before the air force, were the Hærens Flyvertropper (Danish Army Air Corps) and Marinens Flyvevæsen (Danish Naval Air Service) which were merged in 1950 to form the Royal Danish Air Force (RDAF). The same text was also there a year ago . I don't think it is necessary to put this info into the opening text, when it features so prominent in the history-section. In kind regards Heb (talk) 01:53, 11 May 2012 (UTC)
 * What I meant was that there history section started with the purchase of Spitfires and then the Nazi occupation, rather than the start of the history of the organization that the page is about. The aircraft are by definition secondary to the organization, otherwise this page would be named "Aircraft of the Royal Danish Air Force". I reorganized the start of the history section so it actually makes sense.NiD.29 (talk) 15:56, 11 May 2012 (UTC)

The Draken isn't mentioned
The SAAB Draken which was in service between 1970 and 1993 being retired slightly early due to the cold war ending isn't even mentioned. 37.247.12.181 (talk) 05:13, 4 December 2017 (UTC)

MH-60R
The is a SAR capable platform hence the rescue hoist seen here - FOX 52 (talk) 17:19, 29 December 2018 (UTC)

Aircraft Inventory source
Hi.. As usual FlightGlobal's World Air Forces is the reference used for type and number of aircraft operated by certain country's air forces. However, Danish Air Force (DAF) also put their inventory on their website.

Refer to latest edit on inventory, again I noticed that there are few difference between WAF and DAF website, which are number of F-16, CL 604 and AS550. For F-16 and AS550, DAF lower than WAF and for CL 604, DAF higher than WAF. Below is comparison on information on DAF, WAF and other sources:

DAF page
 * F-16: 30 update April 2019
 * CL 604: 4 update April 2017
 * AS 550: 11 update April 2017

WAF 2020/2019/2018/2017
 * F-16: 33
 * CL 604: 3
 * AS 550: 12 (written as AS350 on 2017 edition)

scramble.nl (per 16 March 2020)
 * F-16-> even weirder... total:30 (active:9, stored:7, preserved: 3, scrapped: 3, w/o: 6, other : 2)
 * CL 604: 4 active
 * AS 550: 11 active

Danish F-16 report in April 2015
 * F-16: 30

Therefore, I suggest not to use WAF data for air force that put their inventory on their website. Ckfasdf (talk) 02:31, 16 March 2020 (UTC)
 * No stop nitpicking every number, there’s always going to be one source over another that may not be correct - due aircraft maintenance issue, temporary storage or accidents. The tables are here to give the reader the general number in inventory. (Unless there are major discrepancies just leave it) - FOX 52 (talk) 05:23, 16 March 2020 (UTC)


 * Based on your reasoning (The tables are here to give the reader the general number in inventory), then there is no need to update the aircraft inventory (WAF2019 to WAF2020 or other source to WAF2020), afterall most of the aircraft inventory is barely changed. And yet, we still update them because we want to present as accurate possible information (refer to reliable source of course) to the reader. It's just on DAF case, WAF data is dubious compare to other sources. With that being said, I propose to restore sourcing to DAF page. Ckfasdf (talk) 06:12, 16 March 2020 (UTC)


 * CL604 they currently have four but for many years had three C-080, C-168, C-172 and C-215 was added in 2014. MilborneOne (talk) 00:06, 17 March 2020 (UTC)


 * AS550 they do have 12 but the first one P-090 is used as an instructional airframe, hence the different 11 or 12 totals. MilborneOne (talk) 00:14, 17 March 2020 (UTC)


 * F-16A still appear to be 33 on inventory, the 30 may come from some being considered as reserve : MilborneOne (talk) 00:33, 17 March 2020 (UTC)


 * 1) E-004
 * 2) E-005
 * 3) E-006
 * 4) E-007
 * 5) E-008
 * 6) E-011
 * 7) E-016
 * 8) E-017
 * 9) E-018
 * 10) E-024
 * 11) E-074
 * 12) E-075
 * 13) E-107
 * 14) E-189
 * 15) E-190
 * 16) E-191
 * 17) E-194
 * 18) E-596
 * 19) E-597
 * 20) E-598
 * 21) E-599
 * 22) E-600
 * 23) E-601
 * 24) E-602
 * 25) E-603
 * 26) E-604
 * 27) E-605
 * 28) E-606
 * 29) E-607
 * 30) E-608
 * 31) E-609 seems to be an instructional airframe since 2017
 * 32) E-610
 * 33) E-611


 * So, for CL 604, we can confirm it's 4 unit. one case closed and we can edit the page.
 * For AS550, I also see that on scramble.nl. Could you please enlighten what should we put on "Current Inventory" table, is it for all aircraft inventory (including active, stored, preserved, instructional airframe) or active/operational aircraft only? If it's active/operational aircraft only then it would be 11 unit.
 * For F-16, If we look up on F-16.net, I also found total number of 33 unit (Esk 727: 21(total)-5(F-16B)=16(F-16A)) + (Esk 730: 23(total)-6(F-16B)=17(F-16A)). DAF page didn't listed F-16B / trainer. However, Danish report above said on page 8 "Indeed, with only 30 of those 48 combat aircraft operational at any point since 2010", my guess only 30 is actually active aircraft. btw, thank you for the dicussion. Ckfasdf (talk) 03:01, 17 March 2020 (UTC)

Drone Station at Kangerlussuaq airport* With 2x MQ-9 Reaper
Any source on this one? I can't find anything on the web. — Preceding unsigned comment added by ImadeanAccountforthisonly (talk • contribs) 11:29, 20 June 2022 (UTC)

F35
Since seems to have difficulties to understand (again), I'll try breakdown the details on Danish F-35 here.
 * 1) On 8 September,  makes on edit on number of F35, he put total number in service to be "27" and he put SISPRI data as his reference.
 * 2) Please note that the information from SISPRI states "Denmark ordered 27 F-35 from the US in 2018".
 * 3) Since RedundancyAdvocate seems to be new editor on Air Force articles, he may not be familiar with format aircraft inventory table. Whereas on inventory table, there are separate entry for "in service" aircraft and "on order" aircraft, and he may not understand the difference between those two. That's why I reverted that edit.
 * 4) "In service" column is reserved for aircraft that is already in the service of that country's Air Force.
 * 5) "Notes" column usually used to put if certain country have purchase/order aircrafts but not yet delivered.
 * 6) In case of Danish F-35, total order is 27 aircrafts (SISPRI also support this data, see point 2 above)
 * 7) Total 6 F-35s was delivered in July 2022 and they are used for training in Luke Air Force Base. So aircraft in service is 6 aircrafts (this is mentioned under trainer aircraft in airforce inventory table) and total order to be delivered is 27-6 = 21 aircrafts.
 * 8) In May 2023, another 1 F-35 was delivered, however this aircraft is not intended for to be use as trainer. So aircraft in service is 6 aircrafts as trainer aircraft and 1 aircraft  as combat fighter, lastly total order to be delivered is 21-1=20. Ckfasdf (talk) 01:59, 13 September 2023 (UTC)