Talk:Royal Golden Eagle

Name
In English Wiki, the English name of the company is appropriate, when available. Affics like Ltd may be left out. Rediredt may be used for other name versions, if relevant. Wiki advice is Manual of Style (proper names) and Naming conventions (companies). This holding company was referred to as Royal Golden Eagle by Forbes both in the year 2009 and 2010. Watti Renew (talk) 15:14, 18 May 2011 (UTC)

General cleanup
I have done a bunch of work on this article over the past 24 hours. In particular to recover some criticism that had been lost in the recent edits, toned down what felt like advertising and separated the bare facts about the operations from the community and environmental claims made about these operations. PeterEastern (talk) 09:58, 13 December 2014 (UTC)

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Edit Requests
Proposing the following edits to 2.6 Sateri. Updated information and citations. - HawkEggz (talk) 04:39, 8 May 2019 (UTC)


 * Sateri is the world's largest viscose staple fiber producers, with an annual production capacity of 1.1 million metric tonnes of viscose staple fiber. It has operations in China, comprising a viscose staple fiber production facility in Putian, Fujian, and mills in Jiangxi and Jiangsu.

Reply 06-JUN-2019
Spintendo 05:12, 7 June 2019 (UTC)

Request edit
Proposing to revert edits to 05:12, 7 June 2019‎. Updates made by M R Karim Reza are erroneous and not supported with references. - HawkEggz (talk) 04:25, 17 July 2019 (UTC)
 * RGE is simply named RGE and not RGE International.
 * RGE is registered and headquartered in Singapore.

Reply 17-JUL-2019
Spintendo 06:31, 17 July 2019 (UTC)


 * Yup, Reuters used "the Singapore group " to describe Royal Golden Eagle. Matthew hk (talk) 11:19, 17 July 2019 (UTC)

Request edit

 * First paragraph should be "assets exceeding US$20 billion."
 * References as follows. References should be updated:
 * https://www.rgei.com/about/our-company
 * https://www.weforum.org/organizations/rge-pte-ltd


 * "Bracell Limited" should just be Bracell, as it was privatised in 2016. SEHK code should be removed. Sources already included.


 * "Sateri"'s capacity is 1.4 million tons.
 * References as follows:
 * https://www.sateri.com/corporate/who-we-are/

HawkEggz (talk) 07:09, 6 April 2020 (UTC)
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Request edit
Information to be edited: First paragraph, as follows -


 * Royal Golden Eagle (RGE, also known as Raja Garuda Emas, previously Raja Garuda Mas) is an integrated resource-based industrial group headquartered in Singapore. It manages a global group of companies in the pulp and paper, viscose, palm oil and clean energy industries. Owned by Indonesian businessman Sukanto Tanoto, the group employs 60,000 people worldwide with assets exceeding US$20 billion.

Explanation of issue: More accurate description that is aligned with references. RGE is headquartered in Singapore.

References supporting change:
 * Singapore-headquartered reference - https://www.cnbc.com/2017/06/14/hard-work-the-key-for-the-family-behind-singapore-based-resources-giant-rge.html; also in https://www.weforum.org/organizations/rge-pte-ltd/
 * Reference to managing group of companies, number of employees and assets value - https://www.weforum.org/organizations/rge-pte-ltd/
 * Reference to presence in viscose industry - https://www.asiaone.com/business/rge-commits-us200-million-next-generation-textile-fibre-innovation-and-technology; also in https://www.thejakartapost.com/news/2016/11/21/rge-group-operate-integrated-viscose-fiber-factory-2018.html

Thanks!

HawkEggz (talk) 04:43, 23 July 2020 (UTC)


 * Hi HawkEggz. Trying to separate out requests and claims here:
 * Singapore as headquarters in the lede. It's already in the infobox, and looking at other Asian Pacific conglomerates, like Bakrie Group, Kompas Gramedia Group and Sinar Mas Group, don't have headquarters in the lede. Can you find some examples of pages that do?
 * Is the distinction between "with businesses" and "manages." If so, how about just that one-word change?
 * That second source should work for Viscose
 * Do you have a source for clean energy? That's also new here
 * Thanks! --FeldBum (talk) 14:56, 23 July 2020 (UTC)


 * Hi FeldBum. Thanks for checking in.
 * Unfortunately, I can't find examples of HQ location in the lede, but you're right about the info box. The companies in the RGE group of companies are independently managed, and RGE is a management services company. The existing lede says Asia Pacific, but RGE has operations in Brazil and Canada (references below). Perhaps may I please suggest the first sentence be replaced with:
 * Royal Golden Eagle (RGE, also known as Raja Garuda Emas, previously Raja Garuda Mas) is an integrated global resource-based industrial group with businesses in pulp and paper, viscose, palm oil and clean energy industries. Owned by Indonesian businessman Sukanto Tanoto, the group employs 60,000 people worldwide with assets exceeding US$20 billion.
 * Reference to RGE as management services company, and the companies in the group are independently managed - https://www.rgei.com/about/governance-leadership (primary source)
 * Reference to RGE's operations in Brazil - https://www.reuters.com/article/lwarcel-ma/singapore-group-royal-golden-eagle-acquires-brazils-lwarcel-idUSL2N1SU1JE
 * Reference to RGE's operations in Canada - https://www.spglobal.com/platts/en/market-insights/latest-news/natural-gas/062719-canadas-woodfibre-lng-export-facility-signs-first-long-term-supply-deal-with-bp
 * Source for clean energy:
 * Reference to RGE and LNG energy projects - https://energynow.ca/2019/05/woodfibre-targets-2023-start-of-british-columbia-lng-export-plant/
 * Reference to RGE and LNG energy projects - https://energynow.ca/2018/10/woodfibre-lng-project-set-to-go-ahead-in-early-2019/
 * Reference to LNG being associated with clean energy - https://www.ifc.org/wps/wcm/connect/75f29539-dcab-4b79-aaa6-d7c3aae588fd/EMCompass-Note-65-Natural-Gas-Clean-Energy.pdf?MOD=AJPERES&CVID=mBPATgA
 * Reference to LNG being associated with clean energy - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liquefied_natural_gas
 * Thank you! -- HawkEggz (talk) 01:15, 24 July 2020 (UTC)


 * How about "Royal Golden Eagle (RGE, also known as Raja Garuda Emas, previously Raja Garuda Mas) is global integrated, resource-based industrial group, with businesses in paper, palm oil, viscose, construction and energy, property and asset management"? Viscose is already mentioned in the article. For clean energy, where in the body would we put that? --FeldBum (talk) 19:07, 28 July 2020 (UTC)


 * Hi FeldBum. May I please suggest "Royal Golden Eagle (RGE, also known as Raja Garuda Emas, previously Raja Garuda Mas) is a global integrated, resource-based industrial group, with businesses in pulp and paper, palm oil, viscose, construction and clean energy, property and asset management"? There is a missing "a" before "global" and "clean" is inserted before "energy" in this sentence. RGE's business group APRIL is a producer of pulp and paper, not just paper (source: https://jakartaglobe.id/special-updates/april-group-honored-for-commitment-to-sustainability). There aren't any citations on property and asset management, hence their omission from my previous proposed lede. Clean energy is covered in the sub-section on Pacific Oil & Gas, which is outdated, but LNG is already covered there. Will provide new secondary sources in the future for the community's review.
 * Thanks! -- HawkEggz (talk) 04:14, 29 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Marking this edit request as partially done. I'm skeptical about labeling LNG energy projects as "clean energy" – natural gas is still a fossil fuel, and, while cleaner than coal or petroleum, still produces significant emissions. This article ought to avoid greenwashing. Altamel (talk) 04:38, 27 September 2020 (UTC)