Talk:Royal Mail Choir

Reality TV
Certain editors seem be labouring under the misapprehension that this was a choir formed by a famous choirmaster to create an official choir for the Royal Mail. In fact, the choir was one of four amateur workplace choirs formed by Malone specifically to make a BBC reality TV series. Of course, referring only to local Bristol news sources, or the Royal Mail, it is easy to think they are the most important choir and the only subject of the BBC programme. It would be misleading to give that impression. There is also a clear attempt to portray the choir as the major plank of the Royal Mail advertising campaign; in fact the UK local news sources about the advert mention the choir only briefly, being largely about the local postalworkers picked to star in the advert. Sionk (talk) 17:44, 11 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Nobody is "labouring under that misapprehension"; the origins of the choir are not in dispute. The problem is that you, in your desire to "win" an AfD nomination made by yourself, are ignoring the fact that the choir has had a continuing existence beyond and independent of the TV show and is now recognised by the Royal Mail itself as "its official choir". You need to stop and have a long, cold look at your behaviour and your motives here. Blackberry Sorbet (talk • contribs) 19:03, 11 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Further to your edit summary "no evidence that it's an "official" RM choir", the Royal Mail page which was cited states (my emphasis): "It was sung by the official Royal Mail choir and recorded at the famous Abbey Road Studios, 46 years after The Beatles recorded the original version at the very same address." Perhaps if you had read the source correctly and weren't blinded by your zealotry to win an AfD you might have noticed that. Instead you were too busy reading the bottom of the page trying to find a mention of the 2012 TV show. I think you should step away from the page until your temper has cooled and your judgement cleared. Blackberry Sorbet (talk • contribs) 19:18, 11 November 2013 (UTC)
 * I've now seen the phrase, buried in the press release, thankyou. I guess it's problematic that the article jumped from Bristol TV choir to 'official Royal Mail choir' without joining the dots. I wonder what happened to their Royal Mail Male Voice Choir?
 * As far as the AfD is concerned, it seems I'm in the minority view, though I'm sure you'd agree that 'existing' is not the same as notable. As for the claim the choir appeared in an "observational documentary", you'd need to find a convincing source that described it as such before using that description. It's been called many things, but not that. Sionk (talk) 19:52, 11 November 2013 (UTC)