Talk:Royal Scot Locomotive and General Trust

Locomotive Services Limited
I am proposing to change to the name of the section Locomotive Services Ltd. to Locomotive Services Limited in line with branding on and to use as an anchor point from a Locomotive Services Limited redirect. I will also mention the TOL/TOC via an independent citation.Djm-leighpark (talk) 09:00, 9 January 2018 (UTC). I have now made this change.Djm-leighpark (talk) 06:37, 11 January 2018 (UTC)

Article rename?
I'm not sure Royal Scot Locomotive and General Trust remains the most appropriate name for this article. That said there are a number of developments ongoing. It may not be easy to choose the best name for the article as there are a number of companies/brands co-operating with the situation a little dynamic. It is probably best the current content remains together. As a minimum it probably needs content adding in the lede.


 * I've currently stopped Locomotive Services Limited from being developed into its own article here due to a content fork however there may be some useful content and references that I have removed that may be helpful in this article.Djm-leighpark (talk) 15:00, 19 August 2018 (UTC)


 * Probably the two options are to rename this article Locomotive Services (TOC) Limited or Locomotive Services (TOC) or Locomotive Services Limited (removing the existing redirect). The former two are accurate, the latter will need an admin.  As this may be contentious/difficult the suggestion may need to go to WP:RM.  But I'd welcome any thoughts before I do this.  Thankyou.Djm-leighpark (talk) 15:50, 19 August 2018 (UTC)


 * References identified by 82.17.24.87 on the Locomotive Services Limited oldid=855585874 that might get lost if a proposed rename goes ahead.  The content we mostly have already apart possibly from the 90s and HSTs but as I'm not 100% sure that was in the associated reference I've left it off.
 * "First LS tour" Today's Railways UK issue 197 May 2018 page 68
 * ""Deltics sold - and could be put to work on new railtours" Rail issue 842 20 December 2017 page 30
 * "Two Deltics sold to Locomotive Services" Today's Railways UK issue 193 January 2018 page 67
 * "Class 40 and 47/8 join Locomotive Service's ranks" Rail issue 858 1 August 2018 page 31

Djm-leighpark (talk) 20:34, 19 August 2018 (UTC)

After especially reviewing the 'Icons of Steam' website about page I am very minded the correct decision is to rename this article to Locomotive Services Limited over the existing redirect. I have tweaked the article to make a renamed article seem appropriate, and once renamed the article can be improved further. I will do the formal proposal shortly.Djm-leighpark (talk) 20:34, 19 August 2018 (UTC)

Requested move 19 August 2018

 * The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review. No further edits should be made to this section. 

The result of the move request was: request withdrawn. Dekimasu よ! 09:53, 28 August 2018 (UTC)

Royal Scot Locomotive and General Trust → Locomotive Services Limited – Jeremy Hosking has developed and expanded around the Royal Scot Locomotive and General Trust a set of companies to maintain and operate trains. The article has developed to cover this with Locomotive Services Limited currently existing as a redirect. A good faith attempt was made to expand that to its own article but a WP:CFORK immediately developed so it was reverted to a re-direct. The choice of 'Locomotive Services Limited' as the article name is driven by use of the abbreviation LSL being used in the media/social media for the operation and by the about link on http://www.locomotiveservices.co.uk/ leading to http://www.iconsofsteam.com/about/ which indicates LSL association to the other companies and that it owns the tradenames and copyrights. This move should lead to improved article development and reduce risk of content fork Djm-leighpark (talk) 20:52, 19 August 2018 (UTC) --Relisting. Andrewa (talk) 07:43, 27 August 2018 (UTC)


 * Relisting comment: It seems to me that there may well be scope here for two articles, one at each title. Andrewa (talk) 07:43, 27 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Comment: Oppose: Given implied oppose for merge from relisting admin and lack of explicit support for merge rename I m likely to remove my support for merge shortly and close the merge discussion. LSL content will then be moved/merged across to its own page with attributions.  Thankyou.Djm-leighpark (talk) 09:29, 27 August 2018 (UTC)  Per  can we close my move proposal and go to revert of Locomotive Services Limited to article.  Thankyou.Djm-leighpark (talk) 13:04, 27 August 2018 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page or in a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.

Do we need this gallery?

- we have better shots of 46100 available if need be. The second is also a bit meh.