Talk:Rudy (film)

Director question
When I saw it on TNT this weekend, there's also an Alan Smithee credit as director - the credit that was used for many years for someone who wants to disavow work on a film. Can anyone confirm that is correct? Schnu 03:47, 8 August 2005 (UTC)


 * Hello. Wikipedia actually has an article on Alan Smithee and it would appear that you are correct.
 * i'm curious; what position did Rudy play? i've never caught the movie and if it's listed here i missed it completely.   -anonymous non-member —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 70.19.213.251 (talk)


 * Rudy played cornerback in high school..."led the team in tackles," plays at ND random scout-team defensive positions —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 67.80.159.176 (talk)

Avoid weasel phrases
Conman33: Please avoid using weasel phrases. Statements like "The movie is often considered to be..." lack precision, evidence, and often "give the force of authority to a statement without letting the reader decide if the source of the opinion is reliable." If you can find evidence (reputable survey, for example), that Rudy is considered by viewers to be the best sports movie, then we can make such a claim in the article (with proper citation). --mtz206 22:32, 20 February 2006 (UTC)

Totally Useless Trivia
I fail to see any point of including the paragraph regarding the high school band performance. This trivia is also omitted from IMDB, so that gives me a doubt as to its veracity. I don't think that it really adds anything, so I'm recommending it for deletion. Thoughts? Secretagentwang 20:23, 13 September 2006 (UTC)


 * I do not object to its deletion. Neither can I vouch for it, although do not wish to research it.  I should add though, that such "Trivia" sections are very common for WP movie articles, so its inaneness of itself is not imperative justification for deletion.  Neither do I have any intention of deleting it if you don't.


 * That said, it is trivia, and perhaps not even true. So feel free; there is a record here in Talk of our thoughts on the matter.  Baccyak4H 18:53, 14 September 2006 (UTC)


 * As the person that wrote the trivia and one of the band members at the time, I can vouch for it. I don't know how I could prove it to you because it was obscure and just trivial.  It might be on an old Warsaw High School band calendar from 1992.  I thought it might add something to the article, but if not, no big deal.  I thought it would be interesting for people around northern Indiana. -- Suso 14:00, 27 April 2007 (UTC)

Supertramp
Is the song Rudy by Supertramp about this? http://www.songmeanings.net/lyric.php?lid=3530822107858500532

--insertwackynamehere 00:10, 20 November 2006 (UTC)

Quotes
Shouldn't the large block of quotes be on WikiQuote? GIGGAS2 08:04, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

rippedoff
this sounds rippedoff from ibmd, cauz it has taglines and quotes —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 72.199.75.182 (talk • contribs).
 * Be aware that IMDB has "rippedoff" content from Wikipedia before. The content could have been used from IMDB or IMDB could have used the content from here.  Chupper 20:25, 5 August 2007 (UTC)

Copyright violation
I removed content which included a copyright violation. It used content from the page at http://espn.go.com/page2/s/merron/021202.html. Unless the author and website release that content to the public domain, we can't use it on Wikipedia, even if we cite it. We can, however, rewrite it in our own words and cite it, if someone would be interested in doing that... Chupper 20:31, 5 August 2007 (UTC)

Edits 5/10/2009
I have re-designated the section formerly titled "Inaccuracies" as "Dramatic Alterations" because the latter is a more apt term. From the opening frame, the film is presented as being "based on a true story" - and you'd have to add an "inaccuracies" section to virtually every article in Wiki on a film based on an actual incident, like Apollo13 and JFK_(film). The alterations from fact are for dramatic effect and not for intentional distortion, as the sources that I cite for the other points of fact clearly indicate.

I also added sourced information about Ruettiger's family and the role that Dan Devine played in real life. Sensei48 (talk) 18:37, 10 May 2009 (UTC)

Cast Notation, 6/6/09
The term "starring" actually has a meaning in Hollywood productions, and in actual fact neither Beatty's nor Dutton's nor especially Vaughn's roles fit the criteria. "Starring" is contractually defined as "a role with a central and substantive effect on the film's conflict and outcome." You could stretch that perhaps to include Beatty and Dutton, but not Vaughn by any stretch of the imagination. Jon Favreau and five other actors belong in this lede ahead of Vaughn, whose debut in this film is and ought to be a footnote to the article about the film, not one of the central points in the opening section. regardsSensei48 (talk) 23:15, 6 June 2009 (UTC)

Names On Jerseys In The Film
While Notre Dame generally has not had players' names on their jerseys, for a number of years in the 1970s and 1980s when it was common in college football to do so, Notre Dame followed suit. Here is a picture from Business Week of the real Ruettigger on the bench in the real 1975 ND-GT football game; note the players' names on the jerseys.

http://images.businessweek.com/ss/08/06/0610_speakers/image/5_daniel_ruettiger.jpg

Sensei48 (talk) 19:52, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

RV 9/23
While much of the trivia may be irrelevant, the "alterations" presents points at which the writers/director took liberties for dramatic purposes with the actual events. In the case of Wiki articles on movies based on actual events, such a section is fairly standard and serves to illustrate the points at which fact and fiction diverge. See, for example, Lawrence of Arabia (film). Sensei48 (talk) 06:26, 24 September 2009 (UTC)

You admit the trivia is irrelevent, therefore it does not deserve a place on that page. The phrase "dramatic alterations" is a fairly broad term and could mean anything. You use Lawrence of Arabia (film) as a key example, however, other movies of a similar style like Remember the Titans fail to have a section similar to this. Also, the inclusion of information concerning specific changes to a person personality could be easily worked into the synopsis or noted in the actual persons wiki, where surely there is a section speaking on the movie. —Preceding unsigned comment added by DasJagan (talk • contribs) 12:28, September 24, 2009


 * It may help to read WP:FILMHIST. I recommend restoring only the items backed by references, and reviewing them to make sure that the references are to reliable sources.  It's not unprecedented to mention changes, but it helps to explain the purpose behind them and how the changes were received. Erik (talk &#124; contribs &#124; wt:film) 16:53, 24 September 2009 (UTC)

Further Confirmation that the Jersey Scene Didn't Happen
Joe Montana was a guest on the Dan Patrick Show today (9/08/10), and confirmed that the jersey scene never happened. Joe was a member of the team when the "real" Rudy played in the game. If someone has a good wp:rs for this radio program it could be added. The Eskimo (talk) 20:47, 8 September 2010 (UTC)

reception
Said that it received primarily positive reviews from critics. No citation, I deleted it. Looked at rotten tomatoes, average review was 6.8/10. That is a "D" for you mathematicians out there. Tired of wiki bs —Preceding unsigned comment added by 192.133.129.157 (talk) 02:11, 19 September 2010 (UTC)


 * The BS is that Wiki permits a puerile, silly, and definitely not WP:RS site like Rotten Tomatoes to soil its movie articles. Call the section "critical reception," source it from real film critics, and lose the RT altogether.(which, useless as it is, actually rates the movie as 88% liking it out of  21,000 votes)Sensei48 (talk) 03:13, 19 September 2010 (UTC)

Agreed. propose to revise/redelete "reception session" Badair (talk) 02:24, 19 September 2010 (UTC)
 * I retitled the section as above and added sourced reviews from some major league critics.Sensei48 (talk) 04:26, 19 September 2010 (UTC)

help with home work on the moive
if you are reading this I have a qeution what events and places that affected rudy's life? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 63.135.23.60 (talk) 15:10, 26 September 2010 (UTC)


 * You might want to take a look at Rudy's official website here:.

Stars
For some reason, Greta Lind is listed as the 4th star in the credits (after Astin 1st, Favreau 2nd, and Beatty 3rd). While I disagree that she is the 4th most important person in the movie, I don't understand why she was not listed on the credits list in this article at all. I did edit the page to put her in, but I'm curious as to the rationale for leaving her out in the first place.

76.106.223.68 (talk) 04:48, 26 October 2011 (UTC)

Run time
Why is the run time such a strange, decimal number? 73.9.123.76 (talk) 00:57, 19 January 2024 (UTC)