Talk:Ruf Automobile

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i wonder how porsche feels about RUF? do they supply them with the parts?

I believe they supply them with bodies in white. I'm not completely sure how they aquire the running gear though.


 * It's hard to say. I've never seen any public comments from Porsche about it.  However, starting with the 992 generation Ruf stopped selling Porsche-chassis cars.  It's hard to guess the reason why.  It's possible it was due to Porsche ending that relationship, or it might be because Ruf has limited production space in their facility, and maybe they want to focus more on Ruf-chassis cars, which likely make more profit (they sell for over $1-mil). Impreziv (talk) 17:31, 17 May 2024 (UTC)

YouTube info
I found this little gem of a video while searching for RUF reviews. Is it possible to use some of its information in the article? Monkey343 17:55, 13 November 2007 (UTC)


 * The video is probably someone's upload of a copyrighted documentary, so we should definitely not link to it (per WP:EL). Other than that, if you manage to figure out what's the name of the actual documentary, you are encouraged to use it for citing information in the article. -- intgr [talk] 00:02, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

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BetacommandBot (talk) 04:08, 24 January 2008 (UTC)

Capitalization revert
Fatsamsgrandslam changed 'RUF' to Ruf'. This broke a lot of links, and it's how RUF refers to themselves on their official site, so I reverted it. If I'm wrong, then I won't mind if it's changed back. Monkey343 (talk) 18:11, 2 February 2008 (UTC)


 * It is wrong. See Manual of Style (trademarks). Ruf is from the founder's name, not R.U.F. Fatsamsgrandslam (talk) 18:17, 2 February 2008 (UTC)


 * Ah, sorry. I know that the founder's name is Ruf, but they always referred to themselves as a company as, 'RUF'. Thanks for redirecting all the links as well. Monkey343 (talk) 19:04, 3 February 2008 (UTC)

eRUF
According to this report, this company has just released an electric car called the eRUF (lowercase e). So shouldn't an article be created on it? Simply south (talk) 22:44, 14 October 2008 (UTC)

Bahrain
The Bahrain idea has been abandoned due to, er, issues, with the local partners. The carbon CTR3 chassis they had in the lobby was beautiful. —Preceding unsigned comment added by HighlyErratic (talk • contribs)

Appearances in video games
The bit about Forza Motorsport 4 is not strictly accurate; the Rt12S and Rt12R were in the game from the start, although the 12R was locked out unless you had the more expensive limited edition of the game. RGT8 was a day 1 download for those who had pre-ordered, while CTR Yellowbird and CTR2 were added with different packs at different times.

Is it worthwhile re-writing that part to reflect this, or would it be better just to strip it back to say that Rufs are present in Forza 4, and leave such details for the Forza 4 page? AlexGordovani (talk) 23:18, 28 January 2013 (UTC)

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Manufacturer?
What exactly do they manufacture? They get like 75% of a car from Porsche. How is this not just a Porsche tuner? Genuinely. Saleen and Roush don't "manufacture" Mustangs. Anybody can swap an engine and create a custom interior. That doesn't make them a manufacturer. 75.1.89.127 (talk) 23:46, 28 July 2022 (UTC)


 * Part of the reason is due to the strict German safety standards, and also it relates to the depth of the modifications that RUF makes. They often design their own body panels, including fenders, doors, roofs, etc.  They also make extensive chassis modifications, to the point of entirely re-engineering suspension systems.  In Germany, this level of modification requires testing and certification.  Impreziv (talk) 17:26, 24 October 2022 (UTC)

Ruf hasn't manufactured any vehicles using existing Porsche chassis in a while. I think the article needs to be heavily revamped.
I can't find any official announcements, but Ruf's official website hasn't displayed any models on their website that are based on original Porsche chassis since January 2022. I've confirmed this by looking at archived copies of the website from web.archive.org

The Ruf GT, and the Turbo Florio seem to be the final models that were using the 991-generation chassis. Ruf hasn't produced any vehicles using the new 992 generation chassis.

For the past 7 months, Ruf has only produced the CTR Anniversary, the SCR, and the CTR3. All three of these models are built using their own chassis designs.

It seems several models need to be moved to the Past Models section. Also many parts of the article need reworded, example:

"The company manufactures vehicles using unmarked Porsche chassis" - this could be reworded to say that they presently manufacture vehicles using their own chassis and bodies, but in the past they built cars using Porsche chassis?

Thoughts? Discuss please Impreziv (talk) 17:45, 29 July 2022 (UTC)


 * Yeah I agree with revising the intro, VIN, and History sections to include that. TKOIII (talk) 20:18, 29 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Okay today I made a major revision of the article. This was focused around the fact that this article was vastly outdated.  Most of the article was worded to suggest that Ruf is still manufacturing models using Porsche bodies/chassis, however this hasn't been true for a while.
 * I cannot find any statements or information from Ruf to say that they've announced or confirmed that they have ended this specific business relationship with Porsche. Nor have I found any information to explain why they appear to have ended this line of business.  So I have tried by best to ensure this edit was worded in a way that doesn't imply that this is any kind of official new direction for the company, but rather just a confirmation that they presently only manufacture vehicles with their own in-house body/chassis designs.
 * I've tried to provide as many references as I can find.
 * Something that I'm going to try to look for is a reference that I lost recently. It was a Youtube video interviewing Alois Ruf, and he confirms that the new CTR/SCR body is being offered in 3 different fender widths, with various wheel-widths, and he confirms that the yellow CTR in all their media is the widest option available, and the green SCR in their media is the middle of the 3 options, leaving the most narrow option yet unseen.  However, if I find this, it probably best belongs on the CTR Anniversary's own article.
 * Ruf is a difficult company to research, as they put extremely little information in print anywhere. Most of the details that we've learned about their current models come from journalists who speak to Alois in-person.
 * Impreziv (talk) 19:46, 24 October 2022 (UTC)

Criticism section
I removed this section because the only source was a forum post from 2006 and I wasn't able to easily find any other sources to corroborate what was written there. Reattacollector (talk) 15:32, 2 August 2022 (UTC)

Ruf BR2/BR4
I might be wring, but to my knowledge the BR2 and BR4 models were both based upon the 964 Turbo, with the AWD system removed from the BR4. This also corospondes with the 3.3L engine displacement of early 964 turbo.

Also, the 993 Turbo R was known in some Asian markets as RUF THR.

This is my first time commenting on Wikipedia, and thus I am sorry using it incorrectly. 77.137.71.212 (talk) 14:37, 23 August 2022 (UTC)