Talk:Rufus Shinra/Archive 1

Bleed or cry
Tifa was refering to Sephiroth when she said that line.


 * How do you get that? The line occurs during a pause while Rufus's helicopter is landing outside.  You can take time to talk to all the main party members.  All of them have things to say.  Barret says something like "He's been off somewhere else while his father was running the company".  This clearly refers to Rufus.  The "bleed or cry" comment - which may have been Aerith rather than Tifa - is not attributed to Sephiroth directly, and all the other characters are clearly talking about Rufus.  I don't think it's a stretch to imagine she was also referring to Rufus.  Kasreyn 23:04, 25 May 2006 (UTC)

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As Nojima said, Rufus can move around just as much as Denzel can. So that right there shows you that he can walk just fine. As for the Diamond Weapon assault, he has recovered from that, and he is ok. We have to keep in mind that Rufus can take damage beyond that of a regular human. The building took most of the impact, hence the reason it's stillstanding in the movie. So that right shows that Rufus didn't suffer as much as we all thought.

As for the walking thing, Rufus is able to walk just fine. Here's my proof. Just look at the shotgun skills he displayed in the movie. Those skills could have not been acquired by sitting in a wheelchair for two whole years. A person who can't walk, or can't walk for a while can't operate a gun like that, not to mention still be able to fire it with one hand. That does allot of recoil on the legs. So that shows me that Rufus still trained like crazy, and that shows me that he is still good on his feet.

My final point is how Rufus dodged Kadaj's blast. I'm not sure if you noticed, but that blast was faster then Tiffa's punches. If you watch that scene in slow motion, you will see Rufus squat down, then push himself of the building. So to do something at that speed shows me that his legs are just fine. As for why he is in the wheelchair in the ending, he's fatigue. I'm not sure if you noticed, but if a person who has geostigma pushes their body to far, they tend to faint, and loose the ability to stand. Just look what happened to Cloud after he fought Yazoo and Loz...he fainted and he woke up many hours later. So perhaps it was the situation the Turks and Rufus were in. He wasn't in the wheelchair because of injures, his stunt took away all of his strength.

I think he pretty much recovered from the ordeal in FF7. How could he still be injured AND have geostigma, yet dodge that blast so easily? There is no that's possible. He's recovered; it's just the geostigma that eats away at his energy. Besides, Cloud and Denzel have separate ways of dealing with their geostigma. Cloud just lives on the outskirts of Midgar and just collapse on the ground, Denzel uses his bed, and Rufus uses the wheelchair for his tiredness.


 * Director's Commentary states that Rufus was injured and has mostly recovered, but his legs are still a bit weak. Obviously not so weak that he can't stand up and jump out of the way, but they were still injured... Also, from Reunion Files, "The wheelchair he is in is actually a part of his ruse, but on the other hand he did sustain a lot of injuries in the game, so he's not exactly in the best of shape. - Nomura.


 * Just because you don't see blood and torn clothes in DC doesn't mean he didn't sustain injuries, especially considering the fact that you can't see his legs. WtW-Suzaku 16:08, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

Not a Shotgun
The line in the opening part of the article is inaccurate as Rufus was obviously not wielding a shotgun. If that were the case he wouldn't have been able to shoot it with one hand while falling. Another factor is that he would have blown Kadaj's freaking head off at the same time. A shotgun shoots in a spray pattern not a straight shot. Anyway my point is if anyone has a point to argue this it may or may not change but I didn't want to be nit-picky about it. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by LaYF (talk • contribs).
 * This is Final Fantasy; things can happen which can't happen in real life, such as using a shotgun one-handed. In the game itself, when you fight Rufus and he shoots his gun at you, his attack is called "Shotgun".  "Shotgun" is clearly written on the screen when he attacks you.  I could probably come up with a screenshot from the PC version if it was absolutely necessary.  Also, note that a shotgun can be loaded with solid-shot, in which case it would fire a straight shot, though not with any particular accuracy.  Kasreyn 22:38, 15 June 2006 (UTC)
 * The weapon he used in Final Fantasy 7 was definitely a shotgun. The weapon he used in Advent Children was clearly not a shotgun, but some variety of pistol. It wasn't the same weapon. Schicksal 23:46, 10 August 2006 (UTC)
 * I'd have to agree. The weapon utilized in Advent Children differed greatly in appearance to the weapon Rufus used in the original game. Not only that, the shotgun in FF7 made a distinct shotgun-like noise (and even effect), whereas the gun used in AC was most noticably making the "noise" of a pistol. For developers who prided themselves on attention to detail, I hardly think they'd attach a pistol noise to a shotgun. Though I don't blame the confusion. The pistol in AC has an awkwardly long barrel. MidnightWolf 09:26, 25 August 2006 (UTC)
 * In the Reunion Files book, it indicates that Rufus' gun in AC is a "special model" and is "cutting-edge Shinra technology". Obviously because it's designed to "fold" open and close to keep it easily concealed. WtW-Suzaku 16:00, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

THE BIT BELOW MAKES NO SENCE BECAUSE HOW IN HELLS NAME DO YOU KNOW ITS A SHOTGUN AND ANYWAY ITS A GAME

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Rufus Shinra (ルーファウス神羅) is a non-player character in Square's (Now Square-Enix) RPG Final Fantasy VII. His appearance is marked by neatly-groomed blonde hair, blue eyes and a white three-piece suit with a distinctive double-breasted jacket. At the beginning of the game he is the Vice-President of the Shinra Electric Power Company, a monopoly corporation and "de facto" world government. After his father's death, he becomes the president of the company. In Final Fantasy VII: Advent Children, a CGI film set two years after the end of the original game, Rufus reappears to the surprise of many as he appeared to be killed during the Diamond WEAPON attack on Midgar. He is voiced by Toru Ohkawa in the original Japanese film and Wally Wingert in the English dub.

Personality
In Final Fantasy VII, Rufus is depicted as callous, cold-hearted and ruthless. His views on how Shinra should conduct its rule over the world — through fear and intimidation rather than money — were considered dangerous by his father, and great care was taken to prevent them from influencing the company's inner workings. But by Advent Children it seems Rufus has reformed and is dedicated to helping the regeneration of the planet. He appears to enjoy subterfuge as much as he finds it useful, with his concealment of Jenova's head and use of deception in an attempt to overthrow his father.

Before Crisis: Final Fantasy VII
Appearing infrequently in Before Crisis: Final Fantasy VII, Rufus is secretively supplying funding and information to AVALANCHE as an "anonymous benefactor," while suggesting to the Turks that there may be a leak in the company. He intended to use AVALANCHE to kill his father so that he could become President of the Shinra Company. The plan failed, though Rufus continued scheming.

Rufus is in attendance in Rocket Town during the first attempt to launch a rocket into space. It is here that Rufus and the President argue about Shinra's direction causing serious tension within the company.

Final Fantasy VII
Rufus' role in Final Fantasy VII is mainly that of serving as a frequent antagonist for the heroes (the new AVALANCHE group), while simultaneously attempting to undermine the plans of the game's main villain, Sephiroth. When news of his father's death reached him, Rufus arrived at Shinra headquarters via helicopter, and greets Cloud Strife and his companions. While there, he quickly delivers his opening address as the new president, making it known that — with his father dead — he intended for the company to adopt his own philosophy. After a brief battle with Cloud, Rufus escapes, taking up pursuit of Sephiroth in the hopes of discovering the Cetra's fabled "Promised Land" first.

Throughout the game, Rufus dispatches the Turks to carry out various missions, including intercepting AVALANCHE's movements and guarding various operations. In the latter half of the game, Rufus ironically took up the role of defending the Planet's people from fear and chaos by attempting to destroy Sephiroth's Meteor spell and the Planet's own self-defence mechanism, the WEAPONs, which had gone on a rampage. One of these guardians (Diamond WEAPON) later appeared from beneath the sea and approached Midgar. Though the WEAPON was unable to reach the city due to the interference of AVALANCHE it fired many energy blasts toward Midgar in the seconds before its demise. The Sister Ray fired a shot to destroy the barrier over the Northern Crater and it went straight through the Diamond WEAPON; several of the shots fired hit the Shinra building. Among those areas struck were Rufus' office on the 70th floor from where he was watching the proceedings. As far as the public and the Shinra Board of Directors knew at the time, Rufus was dead.

Final Fantasy VII: Advent Children
Rufus soon made his presence known in Final Fantasy VII Advent Children when he summoned Cloud to act as a bodyguard. Cloud was shocked that Rufus was still alive but was not interested in how he survived the WEAPON’s attack on Midgar. Rufus became one of many to have contracted the fatal illness known as "Geostigma". Rufus claims that he has reformed and is seeking the restoration of the world since it was his company that so greatly contributed to its decay. However, as revealed by Reno of the Turks, this plan also involved the reconstruction of the Shinra Company. Cloud, already hesitant to help Rufus, rejects him outright upon this “revelation" Later, Kadaj approaches him personally, telling Rufus that he doesn't like it when people lie to him. Rufus then accompanies Kadaj to Edge, and in a shock move reveals that he had the remains of Jenova with him all along.

Rufus spends most of the film seemingly confined to a wheelchair due to the energy draining effects of Geostigma and perhaps his injuries sustained in the Diamond WEAPON attack on Midgar. However Rufus later proves to be far more resilient than he was letting on. He is able to walk, and the wheelchair was only part of his performance. However, it also served other practical uses. Rufus did suffer from Geostigma, thus he would be weak and he could also use the chair to conceal Jenova’s head from Kadaj. . Rufus also spends most of the film cloaked with a white sheet ostensibly to hide the effects of his condition from others. In truth, however, the sheet was being used to conceal the box containing Jenova's remains.

In a defiant speech addressed to Kadaj, it is revealed that Rufus is sincere in his reformation, having learned of the Lifestream and acknowledged its authority over the Planet.

After a brief showdown with Kadaj, a spent Rufus is seen resting in his wheelchair once more, and is cured of Geostigma by Great Gospel, a cleansing rain sent by the spirit of Aerith Gainsborough.

Dirge of Cerberus: Final Fantasy VII
In the opening flashback of Dirge of Cerberus: Final Fantasy VII, we learned that after evading death, an unconscious Rufus was carried into an ambulance by rescue workers after Diamond Weapon's attack on Midgar.

As well, Vincent Valentine inquires to Reeve Tuesti as to the World Regenesis Organization's wealthy benefactor. Reeve honestly states that he doesn't know who the person is or care what their motives are, as long as he or she continues to cut the checks. When probed further, Reeve conjectures that whoever is funding the WRO is someone who feels "a debt to the planet," a near word-for-word quote of one of Rufus' lines from Advent Children, leading players to believe that not only was Rufus truly reformed in Advent Children, he is actively working to undo the damage done to the planet.