Talk:Rugby Sound Festival

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Limelightangel (talk) 09:22, 15 November 2023 (UTC)
 * LIUC10Federico
 * LIUC10Judy
 * LIUC10Alice5
 * LIUC10Giulia
 * LIUC10Charly
 * LIUC10Giacomo

General references
-https://www.sportlegnano.it/2023/07/rugby-sound-festival-2023-ledizione-dei-record/297994/

-https://www.sempionenews.it/spettacoli/arriva-il-rugby-sound-festival-2023-con-un-giorno-in-piu/?cn-reloaded=1 LIUC10Federico (talk) 20:49, 15 November 2023 (UTC)


 * They could be valid and reliable sources!
 * This could be some good sources too. I write the links down there:
 * - https://www.ilgiorno.it/legnano/cultura/come-nasce-rugby-sound-afahlnph
 * - https://francescoprisco.blog.ilsole24ore.com/2022/07/04/shining-production-quanto-vale-lagenzia-che-porta-iggy-pop-a-mantova/?refresh_ce=1
 * - https://www.legnanonews.com/eventi/2019/07/09/rugby_sound_2019_abbiamo_fatto_la_storia_/929732/ LIUC10Charly (talk) 12:28, 16 November 2023 (UTC)
 * I add also this resources that could be useful for the project:
 * - https://www.milanotoday.it/eventi/rugby-sound-festival-2022.html#:~:text=Dal%2030%20giugno%20al%2010,migliori%20star%20nazionali%20ed%20internazionali.
 * - https://www.milanoweekend.it/eventi/rugby-sound-festival-programma-biglietti/LIUC10Giacomo (talk) 15:29, 16 November 2023 (UTC)

History

 * this is a site that talks about the origins of the festival:
 * https://www.sempionenews.it/sport/rugby-sound-festival-storia-solida-forte-200-volontari-nome-prabiago-rugby-1948/ LIUC10Giulia (talk) 14:01, 17 November 2023 (UTC)

Street Food

 * These resources talk more about the street food of the festival:
 * - https://www.varesenews.it/2019/06/inizia-rugby-sound-musica-no-stop-tanto-buon-cibo-la-street-food-parade/834273/
 * - https://www.legnanoon.it/eventi/street-food-parade/
 * - https://www.evients.com/events/street-food-parade/11733bb54d8c40cfa3e3f1221e376b54?hl=it-IT

Location

 * There are also some sites about where the festival is located therefore the Castle Of Legnano and also link up the wikipedia site of the Legnano castle: https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Castello_Visconteo_(Legnano) LIUC10Giulia (talk) 14:02, 17 November 2023 (UTC)
 * It's important to mention Parabiago Rugby, since the festival was born as a party for the end of the rubgy season. There's a Wikipedia page about this team, so it's easy to link it up, and the official website talks about the festival as well.
 * -https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rugby_Parabiago
 * -https://rugbyparabiago.com/rugby-sound-festival-si-chiude-ledizione-2022-di-uno-dei-festival-piu-attesi-dellestate/ LIUC10Alice5 (talk) 15:57, 17 November 2023 (UTC)

Some pieces of information about rules and how to get there can be found here https://www.comune.legnano.mi.it/?channel=77&sezione=news&sottoarea=17&id=10198. LIUC10Alice5 (talk) 16:07, 17 November 2023 (UTC)

I think we have to make the contents of the draft page such as history, location etc. like this Location

The festival is held in Legnano, Italy.

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Lead Section
Pages do not have a section header for 'Introduction'. You need to start with the 'lead section', not least to avoid duplicating the links and content in this first section. The summary introduction or 'lead section' is explained at: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style/Lead_section Limelightangel (talk) 10:43, 19 November 2023 (UTC)

Review 4/12/23
Limelightangel (talk) 11:18, 4 December 2023 (UTC)
 * needs relevant images of the event, organizers, attendees, potentially a gallery, performers, the location, a map of the venue, posters/flyers, etc.
 * the entire text has fundamental and multiple issues with appropriate style and grammar. As an example from the lead section, highlighted in bold: Rooted in a rich history[1], the festival has evolved into a pivotal celebration of diverse musical genres and communal unity. In the historic streets of Legnano, the festival transforms the city into a living canvas where music, art, and community converge[2]. The carefully chosen venue breathes life into the festival, turning it into a dynamic experience that transcends traditional notions of music celebrations. The essence of the Rugby Sound Festival lies in its commitment to inclusivity and artistic excellence. The festival's lineup spans a spectrum of genres, including rock, folk, pop, hip hop, indie, rap and electronic dance music[3]. This diversity mirrors the festival's dedication to providing a platform for both local talents and internationally acclaimed artists.
 * fundamental and multiple grammar issues, and duplicate content e.g: from History section: "has become one of the most important summer festival of the northern Italy. It start to be a real festival from the 2000, before it was just Parabiago rugby team's end of year party as already written."
 * inconsistencies e.g. Parabiago rugby, Parabiago Rugby; Rugby Parabiago 1948 (Infobox); 2000 to 2007, 2016-2017;
 * style: 'today' (multiple times); 'famous'; 'starts to look like'; 'and finally'; 'the last edition'; 'just'; 'immense'; 'for several years now'; 'exact address'; 'beyond the'; 'a team that believe in'; 'but' (multiple times); 'so appreciated';
 * grammar: '. Had an attendance of 70,000 people and 6 sold out in 12 days; the event'; 'one of the foremost festival in Italy.'; 'several renowned Italian singer as guest'; 'Subsequently, fron the edition'; 'edition' (mutiple times); 'And'; 'the team bet promote'; 'italian'; 'solidariety'; 'two years pause'; 'covid-19 pandemic'; etc.
 * redundant and duplicate content, with incorrect tense: 'as already written'; 'it start to be'; 'start to become'; 'starts to look like'; 'starts to engages'; Shining Productions; Visconti Castle; 'allow visitors to try street foods'; 'allowed visitors....to try street foods'; etc.
 * missing links out e.g. to Nitro (rapper)
 * History structure: needs to be chronological
 * structure: location information is in 3 different places
 * structure: info. on the rugby team is in several different places with duplication. It should be a single sub-section under the origins of the festival
 * incorrectly linked out pages e.g. Milan. Link out on the first use of the linked term. Check conventions.
 * multiple duplicated links out e.g. Legnano, Visconti Castle, etc. Check conventions.
 * table has missing content and 'headliners' includes food types
 * references: over reliance on Italian sources
 * incorrect reference format for some Italian sources. Check conventions.
 * multiple referencing issues with incorrect and inadequate compliance with conventions e.g. ref. 1 has a missing author (Doria Paolo), publisher, incorrect date, no date accessed; refs. 3 & 20 have missing author (Irma Ciccareli), missing date; refs. 9, 10, & 14 have missing information and not used the Cite>Web template fields correctly; ref. 11 may have an author; ref. 17 has inconsistent UPPER CASE; etc.
 * the majority of references are to low-quality Italian websites
 * the page needs the addition of See Also, External links and Categories. See:
 * 1) Help:Categories
 * 2) External_links
 * 3) Manual_of_Style/Layout
 * there is a lack of information on the actual festival e.g. table of annual attendances, reviews, cost/revenues, organization, issues, etc.

Review 11/12/23
Limelightangel (talk) 17:47, 11 December 2023 (UTC)
 * there are issues with c.37 of the 39 references related to a wide range of missing information, and formatting inconsistencies. The problems are compounded by a large number of low-quality and poorly referenced web sources from non-English sources
 * no Categories
 * no External links
 * no See Also links
 * Headliners in the table still includes 'Hungary cuisine' and other food types, etc.
 * there is a single image of limited relevance to the page topic
 * the infobox has no map, image or logo
 * the single image caption is unacceptable and lacks clarity
 * the link out to Varese is far too late
 * fundamental, repetitive and multiple issues with style and grammar, flagged up in earlier feedback, which have not been understood or addressed - far too many to list here
 * the text under Editions duplicates the table content
 * 'Editions' is the wrong word
 * there is a lack of content on the event e.g. related to attendance, revenues, reviews, etc.
 * the lead section is poor, overly promotional, too long, overly subjective and full of inappropriate style and language. The role of this key section has not been understood and it lacks factual information and evidence of topic notability.
 * there remain multiple issues with correct and consistent formatting of words, numbers, dates and phrases
 * there are no relevant and acceptable images of the festival, performers, attendees, street food, stalls, or relevant past promotional materials, etc.
 * there is no map of the location
 * there are missing links in