Talk:Runes/Archive 3

Runes and Nazism
Runes and Nazism have any relationship? I think I saw this in a doc ... This here: goo.gl/MKo4ec Did Hitler want to take ownership of the ancient power of the runes? Can anyone help? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rodrigoablima (talk • contribs) 01:18, 11 October 2015 (UTC)
 * They are both German....119.92.93.84 (talk) 13:13, 2 January 2016 (UTC)
 * The runes are not just German. But the Nazis tried to take advantage of popular cultural revivals like Wagner's Odinistic operas and runic symbolism — the same way American politicians have long tried to take advantage of cowboy symbolism — e.g. the SS used double-Sig runes as their logo on lapels etc... the rune-name "Sig" is as given in Guido von List's Armanen runes, the version popular in Nazi occultism. The Nazi version of the swastika itself (right-facing and diagonal rather than square) makes it a bind rune of Sig which is a pun for Sieg (victory); as Hitler himself said of his design for his Party's flag, "the swastika (represents) the mission of the struggle for the victory of the Aryan man...." Swastika – •Raven .talk 04:19, 28 May 2017 (UTC)
 * A stupid suggestion. If so, then also Latin letters would be Nazism. Hitler, Goebbels and Göring etc all read and wrote Latin letters. After the Black Death, the last usage of runes vanished. Boeing720 (talk) 20:25, 19 January 2019 (UTC)

Hungarian runes
They sure look like runes, and they are described in literature as 'runiform'. So they should be included in the article in some way. Y-barton (talk) 21:10, 1 December 2018 (UTC)
 * This sounds very likely. Runes was used in central Europe too, but was replaced with latin letters earlier than was the case in Scandinavia. Boeing720 (talk) 20:22, 19 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Sometimes the letters of angular scripts are called runes because they look like runes, but in a narrow, scholarly sense they're not runes. Hurlebatte (talk) 18:41, 10 May 2020 (UTC)

ᛝ in elder futhark?
The article claims ᛝ shows up in elder futhark. Can someone point to an artefact where this is true? I've seen speculation that ᛝ shows up on one of the Weser Bones, but it's not conclusive. Hurlebatte (talk) 18:35, 10 May 2020 (UTC)

I can't point to any sources either. The topic was raised over at Elder Futhark too. I just made a note about it over at Template:Elder Futhark, which would be the proper place to deal with it. --CoreGoon (talk) 09:46, 16 January 2022 (UTC)

Recent see also additions
Some additions were recently added to the see also section that I reverted per WP:BRD. The IP's response to that was vague so I wanted to start a discussion about this. MOS:SEEALSO says Links in this section should be relevant and limited to a reasonable number. The first two links, Old Turkic script and Old Hungarian script make sense given that they are currently not incorporated in a better place. The rest of the links, however, are not relevant enough to warrant inclusion in a limited and reasonable list of relevant articles. What does Hunnic Empire (which redirects to Huns) have to do with Germanic runes? Very little. I don't think these additional links are warranted. - Aoidh (talk) 20:31, 11 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Agree. By the time the Huns invaded in 375, Scandies had been using runes for over 200 years. Martin Rundkvist (talk) 20:43, 11 December 2022 (UTC)