Talk:Russ (Norwegian celebrant)

Intro
Partying to celebrate the end of high school education is not a phenomenon limited to the Scandinavian countries... the intro is perhaps badly phrased. --Shallot 17:29, 2 Aug 2004 (UTC)

Remember that the celebration goes on for weeks, not just a few parties.

Latin
What is 'Examen Depositiones' supposed to mean? Sounds more like a Harry Potter spell than like real Latin. At least it is not correct Latin. Possibly 'examen depositionis'? Could anybody clarify this? --Hartmut Haberland (talk) 06:05, 18 August 2009 (UTC)

About the cleanup tone thingy...
I added this, because some phrases are badly written... I will edit some of this later, but I do not have the time now... First of all; the english is not good enough, and also, many phrases are too POV... Check the article for yourself, and you'll see what I mean :) NuclearFunk


 * I have done substantial type, style and grammar edits and removed the worst POVs. I believe the cleanup tag can be removed. Akita86 (talk) 19:05, 9 February 2009 (UTC)

Norwegian and Danish
I propose dividing up this article into the separate Norwegian and Danish phenomena, as almost the only connection seems to be their history (and that's more than a hundred years ago...). Russ (Norwegian) (or just Russ, after all, this is what the article is mainly about now) and Russ (Danish). If no one opposes, I might even get around to doing this one day. Jørgen 19:31, 2 May 2005 (UTC)

Agreed. It would also allow better division of the russ phenomena in Norway; main entires should be something like uniform (overalls, cars), behaviour (for knot rules, compulsary parties, ceremonies) and paraphenelia (cards, paper). Any better word for the behavioural bit than "behaviour"? King Gard of Gardistan 21:11, 13 May 2005


 * If they are basically similar but with only minor variations in Denmark and Norway, they should stay in the same article. There's no need to go into unnecessary detail of simple student shenanegance.
 * Peter Isotalo 22:43, 10 July 2005 (UTC)


 * Like Jørgen said, they're not similar at all. And I wouldn't reduce Russ to "simple student shenanegance" &mdash; it's quite a cultural phenomenon, which I'm sure you'd find out if you ever went to a Norwegian city during "Russ time". :-) I support a split (although it doesn't seem to be happening, and I'm not motivated as of now). – Pladask 20:45, August 25, 2005 (UTC)


 * I would also agree with Jørgen: the Norwegian Russ-tradition is really a different event than the (original) Danish Rus-tradition. The equivalent in Denmark to the Russ-tradition would be the celebrations similarly following High School graduation, which also involves traditional caps, carriages and weeks of partying (although I believe they are distinctly different in other ways, with the Danish traditions being less formal (?)). 14:52, 6 January 2006 (UTC)

Examples
I propose that, with the upcoming Russ in May, anyone out there in Norway should try to capture some pictures of the event. If a list of examples of activites is included, I believe it will add to the depth of this article. Sure, it is a cultural phenomenon, and this is the important part of the article; but much like the April Fool's Day page, I believe we need a list of past "Greats" as it were and the most recent pranks and events held by the Russ.
 * It's not a bad idea, but we will need a list. I say the march on the 17th should be there. When it comes to all thr "parting", not all of it would contribute to make a better article me thinks... NuclearFunk 18:44, 21 December 2005 (UTC)
 * We need some pictures from a "Russebuss", maybe we can get one from Flickr? My cam`s lost, and I am not sure about copyrights.--Zypres 20:26, 19 May 2006 (UTC)

What does this mean?
--Rus means to put aside one's horns. What does put aside one's horns mean?
 * It's about growing up and becoming mature, almost literally "ceasing to be a beast". Ancient Greek tradition thought that this could be achieved through education, and thus the newly graduated students are said to have "put their horns aside". Hope that makes sense.

Positive results of russ celebration?
http://web3.aftenbladet.no/innenriks/article285047.ece although a news article I think It could be worth mentioning as an "alternating view" or something. Sorry that it is in Norwegian ArneHD 17:47, 2 May 2006 (UTC)

Knots
In the article it says that "...there are about 101 different tasks that can be performed to receive knots." This is, due to local variations, an understatement. At my school this year, it is listed 123 knots (http://www.steinkjer-russ.com/2008/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=18&Itemid=20 (Though listed 124 different knots in the newspaper)); ranging from hugging all the teachers you meet during the school-day, to change in the locker-room of the opposite gender or having vorspiel (From German, means pre-party) for at least three hours in a tree.

Just to notify ;) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.52.241.54 (talk) 17:37, 7 May 2008 (UTC)

Major edit, minor changes
I have separated this article on "russ" from the article on "russefeiring" because the word "russ" refers to the participants in the "russefeiring", and not the "russefeiring" (graduation ceremony) itself. This is in keeping with the (much higher quality) norwegian article on the subject. If they should be merged again in the future (e. g. because of the limited quality of this article) they should be merged into the "russefeiring" article and not into this one (as in the Norwegian Wikipedia).

Unless someone beats me to it (probably unlikely, since this page had not been edited for over a year previously) I will attempt to clean up the "russefeiring" article, as it contains numerous errors, poor language, etc.

Also, the swedish "studenten" and danish "rus" traditions, which are related to russefeiring but carry different names and are very different in character, should have their own pages and should not be included in this one. Realnightshadow (talk) 09:51, 12 May 2009 (UTC)

"White russ"
In the article "white" is designated as the colour of "medical and social studies", altough I have never seen this myself. Possibly a tradition started somewhere in the country locally, altough I have not heard of it and would appreciate an external source proving the statement. The common colours as I know them are red, blue, black and green.

Red: Studiespesialiserende = specialising for studies/higher education.

Blue: Economy and management, no longer a seperate line of study at norwegian secondary school. More a personal choice dependent on school and future plans. EG. in Trondheim, graduates at Adolf Øien Secondary School traditionally wear blue.

Black: "The working class". Mechanics, chefs, electricians, hairdressers. Education towards specific professions, where they usually becomes apprentices after having finished school in order to get a "fagbrev".

Green: Education towards becoming farmers/working with animals.

One should demand external sources of some reliability if other colours than these four is to be listed. Finding proof for these four should be rather easy. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 158.112.84.234 (talk) 07:14, 16 May 2010 (UTC)
 * I removed it. Rettetast (talk) 14:29, 16 May 2010 (UTC)
 * I heard that christian russ whear white, but like other people here, I've never seen anyone wear white (unless you count trønderrussens lab coats). As for black suits, that currently reads "engineering", but I figured it was for vocational studies, and that you had to go to a college to become an actual engineer.129.241.125.212 (talk) 20:23, 30 April 2011 (UTC) (And I should learn to sign in.h3st (talk) 20:24, 30 April 2011 (UTC))