Talk:Russell Norman

Requested move 29 November 2023

 * The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: moved. (closed by non-admin page mover) -- Maddy from Celeste (WAVEDASH) 15:56, 6 December 2023 (UTC)

– Russell Norman (restaurateur) (Russell with two l), who recently died, is newly created. Russel Norman (Russel with one l) was the long-standing page. At worst, no disambiguator should be needed per the policy WP:SMALLDETAILS. But this isn't just the same term with different styling, these are actually spelled differently. Moreover, the pageviews show that single-l Russel Norman only got 20 views per day before double-l Russell Norman died (and his page created); hardly enough to justify the  disambiguator (restaurateur) when the people already have differently spelled names.
 * Russell Norman (restaurateur) → Russell Norman
 * Russell Norman → Russell Norman (disambiguation)

The disambiguation page is probably not needed. Hatnotes are sufficient, and there's otherwise only the swapped name Norman Russell on the dab (debatable if its a plausible error and a useful entry); however deletion can only be discussed at WP:AFD, not RMs. Move it to (disambiguation) for now. —Bagumba (talk) 15:39, 29 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Support per nomination and the recently-created Russell Norman disambiguation page can be subsequently submitted for deletion. Taking into account that the entry for politician Russel Norman has existed since April 2005 and the Russell Norman → Russel Norman redirect came into existence in May 2005, the Russell Norman disambiguation page need not have been created in November 2023 if that long-lasting redirect had been simply converted into the late restaurateur's entry. Hatnotes are indeed sufficient, per nomination. The name Norman Russell can be also mentioned in the hatnotes. —Roman Spinner (talk • contribs) 20:36, 29 November 2023 (UTC)


 * Support - This seems reasonable as long as we keep the hatnotes at the head of each of these pages, as you point out above.
 * Trauma Novitiate (talk) 15:39, 30 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Support per nom. Waddles 🗩 🖉 16:59, 1 December 2023 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.