Talk:Russia Buriat language

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--Amazonien (talk) 02:47, 20 January 2009 (UTC)

Tsebeen (talk) 17:07, 11 June 2010 (UTC) I am a native speaker of Buryad. You cite the Ethnologue in that all three varieties of Buryad differ considerably. It is not the case though. Being born in a village 200 km to the east of Ulaan-Ude - the capital of Buryad Republic - I AM able to freely communicate with China and Mongolia buryads without any difficulties, so does most of native speakers who still manage to maintain good command of their mother tongue. Those who speak Buryad poorly DO have communication problems with buryads in China and Mongolia due to the fact that most China and Mongol buryads DO speak their language fluently and mostly DOES NOT speak russian. That's it. So I wonder who was the source of information for the ethnologue.com. They should revise it carefully. In my opinion for the moment bua is more appropriate to denote all regional groups of Buryad which do not differ that much as to be regarded separate languages.


 * Thank you very much for your comment. You're quite right: Buryat is a major dialect group with no very sharp lines along national borders. (Same holds for Oirat and Central Mongolian.) Calling Russian Buryat a language is quite mad. It wouldn't even be difficult to advise the Ethnologue to change this, but there are more substantial problems with the classification of the real languages (such as Khamnigan and Mogol) relative to each other, so preparing an evaluation of Mongolic to start wth all this correction work would take some time. But a place where changes can be introduced with less effort is Wikipedia: it would be quite possible to merge all four articles on Buryat and redirect the nationality + Buryat articles to the main article. Still, even this takes some time, and some good literature might help as well. I don't have that time recently. But if somebody else could do it? G Purevdorj (talk) 17:44, 11 June 2010 (UTC)


 * Ethnologue is not the primary issue at the present time, but ISO 639-3. The current (and future) editions of Ethnologue follow this standard and will change as the standard changes.  The key is to submit change requests to the ISO 639-3 authority.  You would be requesting to collapse all three varieties of Buryat into a single code, eliminating the three individual codes.  You must have references of some sort to justify this, however.  Like Wikipedia, you cannot use personal experience as a reference (unless you have personally conducted linguistic fieldwork to verify the issue objectively).  --Taivo (talk) 19:11, 11 June 2010 (UTC)