Talk:Russian Greek Catholic Church

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 * Added Denver to the list of locations, now that a community has been established there. Chonak 04:44, 17 September 2006 (UTC)

NPOV...this article seems to reflect a Russian Orthodox point of view... e.g. calling the formation of the Russian Catholic Church a schism (russian Catholics would consider it either the healing of a schism or that there wasn't one to begin with. Or see the use of the word "Purported".--Samuel J. Howard 14:07, 25 December 2006 (UTC)

Mistitled. The terminology Russian Catholic Church is almost universally understood among both Catholics in Russia (Latin and Eastern) and Eastern Catholics generally to refer to Russian Catholics of the Latin (Western) Church. (This is, in fact, a truism with regard to Catholics in most of the Slavic nations that have native communities of both Latin and Byzantine Catholics.) I don't have time to change it now and also fix the "links to" - so, I'll wait and do both tonight. Irish Melkite 10:27, 30 May 2007 (UTC)

The article originally listed St. Andrews in El Segundo as a Russian Catholic Church. It is in fact a Russian Greek Catholic Church. It is a part of the Roman Catholic Archdiocese of Los Angeles however it is entrusted to the care of the Melkite Eparchy of Newton, Mass.


 * To revisit a point I raised several years ago (see above), this is mistitled. Even the Russian parenthetical version of the Church's name in the article says Russian Greek-Catholic. As I pointed out previously, the Russian Catholic Church, in common parlance, is understood to mean those Catholic faithful and parishes in Russia that worship according to the Latin Rite - not the Byzantine Rite. Yet, it is the latter which is intended to be the topic of this piece. As I know next to nothing about retitling here or what needs to be done as regards links to the page, etc, that might be affected by doing so, I'd be grateful if someone with the proper skills might fix it. Irish Melkite (talk) 13:18, 2 February 2012 (UTC)

Having had no comments to the contrary, and noting once again that the term 'Greek' appears in the Russian language styling of the Church's name, I have inserted the term in the name of the Church as it appears in the opening line. I have no idea how to re-title the article itself. If someone could explain how, I'd appreciate it. Irish Melkite (talk) 07:02, 25 April 2012 (UTC)

Holy Cross Abbey, Chevetogne
There seems to be a dispute about the link to Holy Cross Abbey. As far as I can tell Inferno has acted properly in adding a link. Is there some concern about including the link? Cheers, Majoreditor (talk) 18:39, 16 March 2008 (UTC)

two exarchates?
The Catholic Hierarchy site only lists one (http://www.catholic-hierarchy.org/diocese/dmoby.html) Richardson mcphillips (talk) 20:18, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

The other was in Harbin, China among exiles there and is listed on Catholic Hierarchy --Samuel J. Howard (talk) 15:51, 21 November 2011 (UTC)

Michel d'Herbigny and the Russicum
I realize wikipedia does not intend to be exhaustive, but I wonder if this would be a good place to mention Bishop d'Herbigny and the work of the Russicum or a link to the article about the Russicum, which is very brief. Richardson mcphillips (talk) 20:25, 28 March 2008 (UTC)


 * If you are able, please do! There aren't that many people who know enough to comment and write, so any contribution would be much appreciated. InfernoXV (talk) 13:18, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

Structure
I have deleted Dublin from the list of Russian Greek-Catholic church sites. The parish in Dublin, formerly St John Chrysostom and now HieroMartyr Nicholas the Wonderworker, is a parish of the Ukrainian Greek-Catholic Church and always has been. Father Archimandrite Serge Keleher, who reposed a couple of months ago, was ordained to the RGCC but served the UGCC. That the Society of St John Chrysostom and St Michael's RGC Church in NYC list the parish is because Father Serge was so well-respected as regards his knowledge of the RGCC and his scholarship on the matter, as evidenced by his publications on the topic, and because he was considered a valued friend of both the Society and the Parish. Both sites also list (in essentially identical listings) other parishes that are not 'Russian', but have close ties to the Russian GC cause. Irish Melkite (talk) 13:11, 2 February 2012 (UTC)

Non-neutral language
The article has this text at the beginning: ″Historically it represents the first reunion of members of the Russian Orthodox Church with the Roman Catholic Church.″ This is a specific Roman Catholic way to express what happened. In the RC opinion, you cannot convert to catholicism, you can only be "reunited" or "reconciled" with the RC church, since it is the only real church… Christians outside the RC church would say that the Russian Orthodox converted to Roman Catholicism. (Remark by Eldberg on January 24, 2016)

Catholic Church naming conventions RfC
There is currently an RfC at Wikipedia_talk:Naming_conventions_(Catholic_Church) that may be of interest. Gaia Octavia Agrippa Talk 23:36, 3 October 2017 (UTC)

"Russian Catholic Church (disambiguation)" listed at Redirects for discussion
An editor has identified a potential problem with the redirect Russian Catholic Church (disambiguation) and has thus listed it for discussion. This discussion will occur at Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 March 14 until a consensus is reached, and readers of this page are welcome to contribute to the discussion. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 09:07, 14 March 2022 (UTC)

Crusade against Russians
Missing information about crusade against Russians, part of Northern Crusade https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northern_Crusades — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A02:A45E:72A7:1:DABB:C1FF:FEAC:7283 (talk) 11:44, 13 August 2023 (UTC)

Category:Russian Greek-Catholics
I have just spent some time populating this category with articles that were previously in Category:Russian Eastern Catholics. The Russian Greek-Catholic Church is obviously both Eastern Catholic and Russian but I think the more specific category is the most appropriate. However, I'm not confident/well-enough informed to move all the individuals across as it's not always clear from the articles if the individual was a member of this church or of the Latin Church. Perhaps others with greater knowledge could have a look and see if any others can be moved? 217.155.59.206 (talk) 15:02, 7 January 2024 (UTC)

I'm also not sure if the Russian Greek-Catholic category is intended solely for members of this church or whether it can include Russians who were/are members of another Byzantine Rite Greek Catholic Church such as Ignatius of Moscow, Vladimir Kolupaev or Alexander Volkonsky? Any thoughts? 217.155.59.206 (talk) 15:02, 7 January 2024 (UTC)