Talk:Russian Machine Never Breaks

=Notability=

I believe this website is notable because:
 * It has independent, third-party, non-trivial, reliable sources that fact check before publishing (NPR, Fox News DC, The Atlantic)
 * These sources do not simply mention the name of the website
 * It has demonstrated effects on athletics and a current event.

Exploring my bias: I did not write this on behalf of RMNB nor am I affiliated with it, though I am a fan of the website. I became interested in submitting it to Wikipedia after their coverage of the Russian meteor event. Therefore, I'm not using this simply to advertise for the website and tried to be neutral. (Clarifying due to Wikipedia's guidelines for creating a page for a blog/website.)

Note on notability associated with an event: RMNB is not simply notable because it is associated with the Russian meteor event. However, it received independent attention after the event--the web content itself received notice. --Kaleidscope-Eyes (talk) 15:16, 22 February 2013 (UTC)

Neil Greenberg
I think it's fine to include a former writer who has gone on to write for the Post and ESPN. However, in order to establish his notoriety, a citation is needed from a third-party reliable source. Has anything been published about Greenberg? Has he been interviewed about his skills as an analyst? Is he well known in the field? --Kaleidoscope-Eyes (talk) 18:56, 23 February 2013 (UTC)

He's well-known among hockey statisticians. He has been interviewed an an analyst by Illegal Curve http://illegalcurve.com/2012/04/28/428-illegal-curve-hockey-show-part-1/ and The Score http://blogs.thescore.com/nhl/2012/01/25/backhand-shelf-podcast-with-espns-neil-greenberg/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 37.146.76.230 (talk) 21:15, 23 February 2013 (UTC)


 * According to WP:IRS which discusses Wikipedia's guideline for reliable sources, "articles should be based on reliable, third-party, published sources with a reputation for fact-checking and accuracy." I'm not sure either of these sources pass the test. Correct me if I'm wrong, but both those sites are essentially blogs, right?


 * Right now I've left the sentence as it, and just left it with "citation needed." So it reads like this: "Former writer Neil Greenberg gained notoriety with his advanced statistical analysis[citation needed]. He is currently a writer for The Washington Post and ESPN." Maybe we can add something to quantify it by saying he's "well know among hockey statisticians. Though, there would still need to have a reliable third-party source. --Kaleidoscope-Eyes (talk) 22:43, 23 February 2013 (UTC)

The Score is one of the biggest sports sites in America, on the same line with Yahoo! Sports, ESPN, NBC Sports, etc. IllegalCurve is a blog and a site of the radio show of the same name. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 37.146.76.230 (talk) 00:47, 24 February 2013 (UTC)


 * In that case, definitely use that as the source! --Kaleidoscope-Eyes (talk) 02:55, 24 February 2013 (UTC)