Talk:Russian nihilist movement

I know some sources that state that Nihilism was a cultural movement, as I will add to the page. Some people, in face of the hardening of the Tsarist rule, recurred later to violence, and that was a separate thing. The Tzarist government also used it to attack the real nihilists and give them a bad name, as they were asking for more democracy and for the abolition of servitude in Russia. These are the references:

http://dwardmac.pitzer.edu/Anarchist_Archives/kropotkin/memoirs/memoirs4_12.html and

http://wwics.si.edu/topics/pubs/ACF2B0.pdf Mr.Rocks 11:48, 15 May 2005 (UTC)

I'm deleting the phrase on Bakunin and Marx. It says nothing about nihilism, and anyway, it shouldn't be in a paragraph devoted to the decembrist revolt. That revolt happened much before Bakunin or Marx had involved in politics. Mr.Rocks 13:29, 15 May 2005 (UTC)

I've erased the paragraph and picture on the decembrist revolt. There is a special page for it, and the Nihilists were not a split nor a continuation from the decembrist movement. The fact that they at some point opposed the same government was coincidental. Mr.Rocks 07:57, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

Added research on nihilism's historical context
Included a few paragraphs from a paper I wrote several years ago while in school (PDF - http://www.ellenbeldner.info/portfolio/ubermensch.pdf). Also added references to one of the research books I used, which discussed Turgenev's _Fathers and Sons_ in its historical context. -- elbeldner, 6 Aug 2005

The Big Lebowski picture
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Should this really be here as I think the people identified are just nihilists and not specifically from the nihilist movement.


 * The Big Lebowski, while a bloody awesome movie, has nothing to do with the Nihilist movement. In addition, they were philosophical nihilists (from what is said in the movie, plus the stereotype of bitter people dressed in black etc) as opposed to cultural nihilists of Russia.


 * Also, they weren't very good nihilists anyway. "That's not fair!"Andrew zot 06:41, 14 September 2006 (UTC)

Andre Glucksman on Nihilism
Andre Glucksmann claims that a nihilist may pose as a nationalist, Marxist, or a religious fundamentalist, but these are simply alibis. The only thing that motivates them is hatred.

He writes about a visit he made to Chechnya in 2000, when he met a top boss in the secret service, who, after being bribed, enabled him to cross various control points. Gluckmann notes that he wore a golden chain bracelet upon which was engraved: "Get what you want."

When his friend Hans Christoph Buch said to a Liberian child soldier carrying a loaded Kalashnikov, "You could be killing your mother or father," he replied, "Why not?"

For Glucksmann, Islamic groups in Algeria who play football with human heads, and the terrorist in Iraq who blows up passers-by both possess the same nihilistic spirit, a "morality of why not."

In "Le Discours de la Haine" (2004) Glucksmann argues that terrorist violence has nothing to do with opposing misery and repression. These are just an excuse to give free reign to brutality. Indeed they seek to bring about misery and repression:

"Some feel they've been called upon by God, others feel liberated by the absence of God and all conventions. Both...kill profligately, because they feel they have the right to do anything."


 * Talk page vandalism should be a thing, and a bannable offense 66.27.174.138 (talk) 23:50, 15 March 2014 (UTC)

PARADOX
What's the point of a nihilist movement? Doesn't the article answer this question?--72.1.156.43 12:17, 3 October 2007 (UTC) (Russian: Нихилистички покрет, Nikhilistichki pokret - Hey, it's not russian... It's serbian. 46.254.243.51 (talk) 08:43, 25 January 2013 (UTC)

Shouldn't Anarcho-nihilism be a separate article?
"Anarcho-nihilism" redirects to this article. There are currently some anarcho-nihilist movements, and this article doesn't mention anything after the 1800's Krozeder (talk) 18:03, 7 November 2022 (UTC)