Talk:Russo-American Treaty of 1824

Where is this treaty?
Where is this treaty?

you mean, in which archive/museum, or where it applied to? Map forthcoming, and more additions as the full context of the treaty and its diplomatic environment needs to be laid out (I'm coming from the intermediary pig-in-the-middle British POV but can cover all sides).Skookum1 05:26, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

BC & Pacific Northwest History Forum
Please see RE BC & Pacific Northwest History Forum re: Talk:List of United States military history events. If you think maybe I should also move some or copy some of my other stuff from NW history and BC history pages let me know; I never mean to blog, but I'm voluble and to me everything's interconnected; never meaning to dominate a page so have made this area to post my historical rambles on. Thoughts?Skookum1 03:49, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

NW Treaties are complicated...
Sorry for the snide remarks about US textbooks, but as on the List of US military history events, where the USS Ontario's visit in 1819 had been put as "taking possession" (hah! - they didn't even land) there's a lot of sloppy POV history from US curriculums making its way in here. The imperial treaties in the Pacific Northwest area a tangled mess and the 1824 treaty signed away Russian rights south of 54-40; but not CONTROL, as no one had it (the Brits and Russians had a joint-use thing, which is why the Russians claimed all the way to California without conflicting with Britain in the Columbia-Vancouver Island-Queen Charlottes area). I'll try and rework this later, as even my edit has some language/details problems; I haven't read the core materials lately but will refer anyone interested here to The Nootka Connection by Derek Pethick, which is the best rundown on imperial geopolitics in this area that you'll find.Skookum1 20:24, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

My mistake: the Pethick book ends with 1795, but the onset of Russian expansion and claims is explained in it; the same author covers similar ground in First Voyages to the Northwest Coast. Must have been GPV and Helen Akrigg's British Columbia Chronicle, Vol. 1, I was thinking of. Might be something else too but I'll have to think about it. "I'll be back".Skookum1 22:00, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

Treaty text to WikiSource
The treaty's text, which has been added, should be migrated to WikiSource; it's out of place here and not needed; the eventual growth of htis article can include references ot his treaty in alter documents etc. but as far as source text goes, that's what WikiSoruce is for.Skookum1 (talk) 01:06, 13 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Done. --PBS (talk) 12:37, 14 April 2009 (UTC)

Transfer of claims?
This article says Russia gave its southern claims to the USA. Does this conflict with the Treaty_of_Saint_Petersburg_(1825) with Britain? --JWB (talk) 16:23, 12 September 2014 (UTC)