Talk:Ryan Grant (running back)/GA1

GA Review
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I have reviewed this article, and I found that it is close to being at a GA level. I did some copyediting and fixed small things myself, as per the suggestion at the WP:GAN page. My remaining concerns are: I am going to place this review on hold for up to seven days so that these can be fixed. As you go through, please indicate which ones have been completed by striking them out ( like so ) or adding a ✅ check. The article is on my watchlist, so I will check back to see how the progress is going, and I will read over the article again once these concerns have been addressed. Great job so far, and please let me know if you have any questions or concerns about this review. Best wishes, GaryColemanFan (talk) 02:38, 21 March 2008 (UTC)
 * 1) I know that in professional wrestling articles, which is what I work on most of the time, we always (try to) give a reference for the birth date. Does this not happen in football articles? If there is no football project guideline, I would like to see a reference added for this http://und.cstv.com/sports/m-footbl/mtt/grant_ryan00.html works, and it's already used in the article, so it should be easy to add.
 * 2) I believe the "High school career" section is mistaken. According to the source, Grant attended Don Bosco, then Clarkstown, then Don Bosco. The article claims that it was Clarkstown, then Don Bosco, then he transfered to Don Bosco.
 * 3) The "High school career" section is quite short. Is there information available about the result of the state championship game?
 * 4) The "High school career" section could also be bulked up with some of the information from http://und.cstv.com/sports/m-footbl/mtt/grant_ryan00.html (his basketball and track in high school).
 * 5) In the "College career" section, it should be explained that Jones and Grant played the same position.
 * 6) In the "College career" section, it should also be clear that Notre Dame and the Fighting Irish are the same team, as the article must be able to be understood by someone with little background knowledge.
 * 7) For the same reason, terms like "touchdown" should be wikilinked. I'm not familiar with football articles, so I would also be interested to know if there is an appropriate wikilink to explain "yards" as it relates specifically to football.
 * 8) The last sentence in the "College career" section needs a reference
 * 9) For now, there is no need for a "2007" subsection in the "Green Bay Packers" section.
 * 10) At the beginning of the "2007" subsection, "...played as the second-string running back behind DeShawn Wynn for the first 6 games of the season" should be referenced.
 * 11) In the "Green Bay Packers" section, "carry" and "fumble" should have wikilinks.
 * 12) In the second paragraph of the "2007" subsection, "ran out" sounds awkward.
 * 13) The final three paragraphs of the "2007" subsection could be combined, as they are all quite short. If the final statement (the speculative one mentioned above about not re-signing) is removed, the final two paragraphs should still be combined.
 * 14) The last sentence in the "2007" subsection reads as speculation unless a reference is given.
 * 15) The quotations in the "2007" subsection would be better worked into the prose, "so as not to inhibit the pace, flow and organization of the article". I feel that having the quotations from Favre and McCarthy in their present form disrupts the flow of the article.
 * 16) The paragraph about the FedEx Ground Player of the Week award seems like it would be better worked into the text, with a mention of the award(s) worked into the list in the "Achievements and awards" section". I am not sure how my suggestion fits in with WikiProject National Football League guidelines, though.
 * I made some fixes.  « Gonzo fan2007  (talk ♦ contribs)  23:01, 21 March 2008 (UTC)
 * I believe all the issues have been resolved, are there anymore concerns?  « Gonzo fan2007  (talk ♦ contribs)  06:33, 22 March 2008 (UTC)
 * GA review (see here for criteria)


 * 1) It is reasonably well written.
 * a (prose): b (MoS):
 * 1) It is factually accurate and verifiable.
 * a (references): b (citations to reliable sources):  c (OR):
 * 1) It is broad in its coverage.
 * a (major aspects): b (focused):
 * 1) It follows the neutral point of view policy.
 * Fair representation without bias:
 * 1) It is stable.
 * No edit wars etc.:
 * 1) It is illustrated by images, where possible and appropriate.
 * a (images are tagged and non-free images have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):
 * 1) Overall:
 * Pass/Fail:
 * 1) It is illustrated by images, where possible and appropriate.
 * a (images are tagged and non-free images have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):
 * 1) Overall:
 * Pass/Fail:
 * 1) Overall:
 * Pass/Fail:

A couple of things I think are important to mention:
 * 1) Please keep this article on your watchlist. Although the article meets GA criteria now, it will require a lot of upkeep over the course of Grant's career to remain at this level.
 * 2) My biggest suggestion for future improvement is to be careful about using the word "only". It can be seen as POV and call the neutrality of the article into question. When it is used in this article, I believe that it is clear that it means that his statistics for a game or period of time were down from their previous levels. I decided not to require this to be changed for the review because I can't think of another way to say this without sounding awkward. If you can work on this, it would improve the article.

Overall, great work and I hope to see you keep it up. Best wishes, GaryColemanFan (talk) 15:34, 22 March 2008 (UTC)