Talk:Ryan Roberts (American football)/GA1

GA Review
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Reviewer: Lee Vilenski (talk · contribs) 21:10, 1 October 2022 (UTC)

Hello, I am planning on reviewing this article for GA Status, over the next couple of days. Thank you for nominating the article for GA status. I hope I will learn some new information, and that my feedback is helpful.

If nominators or editors could refrain from updating the particular section that I am updating until it is complete, I would appreciate it to remove a edit conflict. Please address concerns in the section that has been completed above (If I've raised concerns up to references, feel free to comment on things like the lede.)

I generally provide an overview of things I read through the article on a first glance. Then do a thorough sweep of the article after the feedback is addressed. After this, I will present the pass/failure. I may use strikethrough tags when concerns are met. Even if something is obvious why my concern is met, please leave a message as courtesy.

Best of luck! you can also use the ✅ tag to state when something is addressed.  Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs)

Please let me know after the review is done, if you were happy with the review! Obviously this is regarding the article's quality, however, I want to be happy and civil to all, so let me know if I have done a good job, regardless of the article's outcome.

Lede

 * "American football defensive end who played" -> American football player who played as a defensive end for..." To avoid WP:SEAOFBLUE.  Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 20:28, 3 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Ok.-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 03:53, 10 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Lede is incredibly barebones. I feel like we could include something about how he did as a player and what years he was active at the very least.  Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 20:28, 3 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Done.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 03:56, 10 October 2022 (UTC)

General

 * Roberts was born on August 11, 1980, in Camden, New Jersey, and earned three varsity letters in gridiron football at Haddonfield Memorial High School. - considering there is no personal life section, is there no info about their upbringing, or anything outside football?  Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 20:39, 3 October 2022 (UTC)
 * This is a biography of very marginal notability. I've cobbled together what I can. It is particularly hard with Notre Dame athletes because they were not part of a league during this era. When I researched this article nothing else about personal/early life really seemed to be encyclopedic. I don't believe anything else about his family was mentioned. I'll do a quick look back.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 04:00, 10 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Roberts considered in-state Princeton University or nearby University of Pennsylvania - maybe an Americanism, but I have no idea what this means  Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 20:39, 3 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Maybe the information is more clearly conveyed now.-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 04:28, 10 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Maybe link soccer.  Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 20:39, 3 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Done.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 04:29, 10 October 2022 (UTC)
 * So I've had another look through, here's what I got:
 * You probably no longer need the citations in the infobox as they are in the prose. Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 20:30, 12 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Is there an WP:MOS issue in which things can't be cited in both the infobox and the prose? I think the infobox is the most likely place many readers would go for this content and thus think it might be better to keep citations right here.-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 12:52, 17 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Indeed there is - WP:INFOBOXCITE/ WP:MINREF.  Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 07:53, 20 October 2022 (UTC)
 * I know you link it in the lede, but you probably should link Notre Dame in the body on first use.  Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 20:30, 12 October 2022 (UTC)
 * OK.-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 20:25, 19 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Following his January 13, 2000, surgery, - surgery in... Lee Vilenski  (talk • contribs) 20:30, 12 October 2022 (UTC)

Review meta comments

 * I'll begin the review as soon as I can! If you fancy returning the favour, I have a list of nominations for review at WP:GAN and WP:FAC, respectively. I'd be very grateful if you were to complete one of these if you get time. Best Wishes,  Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs)  Lee Vilenski  (talk • contribs) 21:10, 1 October 2022 (UTC)
 * As it was just such a little issue keeping up promotion, I've gone ahead and made the changes necessary. Happy to promote now  Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 10:30, 31 October 2022 (UTC)