Talk:Süper Lig

Most Championships
This should be listed in the current order, without Galatasaray being moved back to the top. Please don't be petty guys, keep it simple - alphabetical order, F comes before G.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 220.245.72.221 (talk) 12:16, 22 May 2009 (UTC)

I RE-ITERATE, F comes before G in alphabetical order, in addition Fenerbahçe was the first club to win it's 17th title. Can the clearly juvenile Galatasaray fan/s putting Galatasaray on top here stop being such a petty lowlife? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 220.245.72.221 (talk) 06:07, 31 May 2009 (UTC)

Most Games Won In A Row At Home
A source is needed on when Galatasaray broke this record. Can 15:56, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

2000/01 - 34th Week (Serie begins with Galatasaray 4-0 Trabzon) http://www.angelfire.com/nj/sivritepe/0001/1l34.html

2001/02 - All season (you can see that Galatasaray won all home matches that season) http://www.angelfire.com/nj/sivritepe/0102/sl.html

2002/03 - http://www.angelfire.com/nj/sivritepe/0203/1.html

2002/03 - 16th Week (Galatasaray lose Beşiktaş 0-1) http://www.angelfire.com/nj/sivritepe/0203/116.html

Overview
"The arrival of private television channels in Turkey in the 1990s created a bidding war for live coverage rights, pouring money into the league and raising footballing standards dramatically. Live coverage rights are currently held by Digiturk, the digital satellite platform, until the contract expires in 2009. Digiturk bought the rights in 2004 for 135.85 million New Turkish lira (US$99 million), making the Super League the most expensive league after England's Premiership."

'''This is an inaccurate statement. The Turkish League is not the most expensive league after England.'''

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The television rights for the Turkish league were indeed the second most expensive in football when Digiturk's contract was finally signed in 2004, although I'll admit the situation might have changed since. Mikedaventry''' 09.39 29 Jul 2006 (UTC)

If it's an "inaccurate statement," prove it wrong. Excuse me if I don't immediately believe an unsigned statement that lists no sources, however bold the text. MonsterOfTheLake 23:32, 29 July 2006 (UTC)

You can't be serious. A contract worth $100 million over 5 years is not even close to the second largest contract. Spain, France, Italian and German leagues all have bigger contracts than the Turkish League. In fact, Juventus(before the corruption scandal), by itself, signed a $300 million deal over 2 years.

Manager of the Year
Ertuğrul Sağlam

http://sporvizyon.zaman.com.tr/?bl=75&hn=11759

Edit war
Is there something we can do about this edit war? Anyone with a decent reference wether it was Gerets or Saglam ? SportsAddicted 20:25, 2 October 2006 (UTC)


 * I don't think a source will stop the user from keep reverting it, as seen with the Galatasaray article he/she relentlessly reverts. CanbekEsen 20:31, 2 October 2006 (UTC)
 * In that case he or she should be banned for continuous violation I think. SportsAddicted 09:57, 4 October 2006 (UTC)
 * I wish, he's been blocked many times, but somehow keeps coming back. Also, 148.244.235.4 is the same person. CanbekEsen 13:41, 6 October 2006 (UTC)

It seems that has been blocked for six months,  has been blocked for six months,  has been blocked for one week etc. But they still edit (?). Maybe we should semi-protect this article? Punkmorten 19:23, 6 October 2006 (UTC)
 * I think that would be a fair option. SportsAddicted 20:06, 6 October 2006 (UTC)

Ertuğrul Sağlam mı Erik Gerets mi???
Lütfen değişiklik yapılacaksa kaynak belirtilsin. Devamlı bu sayfada oynamalar oluyor kaynak belirtilmezse maddeler silinecektir. --Profesor 15:06, 8 October 2006 (UTC)

most goals in one season
http://www.angelfire.com/nj/sivritepe/6263/tl.html

galatasaray scored 105 goals in 1962/63 season. the record doesnt belong to fenerbahçe —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 88.233.76.176 (talk) 18:44, 1 January 2007 (UTC).


 * Puhahaha everybody knows that the only team which scored more than 100 goals is Fenerbahçe. What a comedy! Deliogul 23:44, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

players with most championships
http://www.galatasaray.org/superlig/puantablo/1lig8687.asp

suat kaya won 8 championships too. as it's already known that 1992/93, 1993/94, 1996/97, 1997/98, 1998/99, 1999/00 and 2001/02 galatasaray's title-winning squads had suat kaya; the 1986/87 season isnt known by many people

above i put the link u can see galatasaray team in 1986/87

additionally, let me inform you that suat kaya played 3 league matches that season —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 88.233.76.176 (talk) 18:48, 1 January 2007 (UTC).

Zaferrr!
Turkcell Super League article is choosen as the football collaboration of the week! Please help expanding the article. Oy atanlara büyük teşekkür. Deliogul 14:26, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

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Name
Shouldn't this be renamed to Turkish Super League, as that is what it is most commonly known in English?Lord Cornwallis (talk) 04:54, 7 July 2008 (UTC)


 * The following discussion is an archived discussion of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section. 

The result of the proposal was consensus to move.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 03:30, 25 July 2008 (UTC)

Requested move
Turkcell Super League → Süper Lig — All other top-level football leagues are udner their unsponsored name eg Premier League not "Barclays Premier League", Ligue 1 not "Ligue 1 Orange", etc. No compelling reason for this one league to be treated differently........ — ChrisTheDude (talk) 12:59, 21 July 2008 (UTC)

Survey

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 * Support per nom Ban  Ray  13:13, 21 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Support per nom. пﮟოьεԻ   5  7  13:46, 21 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Support. It is better to avoid using sponsor names, as they change often. --Carioca (talk) 18:42, 21 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Support per nom. As User:Carioca said, sponsor names change often, and when they do, hundreds of links must be changed. This move makes things easier for editors, as well as making the article relevant to all incarnations of the league in question, not just the one with the current sponsor's name. – PeeJay 22:27, 21 July 2008 (UTC)

Discussion

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The points are not written correct in the table of the history. Fenerbahce's points are more than Galatasaray's. It s not hard to calculate. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 151.71.231.111 (talk) 14:07, 20 May 2010 (UTC)

Popular Players
Please keep the popular players list in alphabetical order. Putting a specific club's players at the top of the list gains you nothing.

Also, let's please refrain from adding players who don't fit the loosely defined criteria of players enjoying global popularity. Playing for several years in some of the larger European leagues or being, at least at one time, a regular for his international side are probably good indicators of popularity. (ie. there is little point in adding Fabio Luciano, Marcio Nobre, Marcelo Carrusca and the likes) 76.185.128.21 (talk) 21:20, 19 August 2008 (UTC)

Another one: Can someone please try to change the incorrect flags, as some of them are just wrong eg. Mehmet Aurelio (Spain), Harry Kewell (Turkey) etc. etc. Thanks in advance. UmutK (talk) 00:11, 28 February 2009 (UTC)

This popular players list is becoming a race to add as many players as possible. We even have some players on there who have barely even made an impact on Turkish football. For example Abdelzaher El Saqqa who has played for many years in Turkey is not listed but Claudio Maldonado who has played only a handful of matches is in there because he happened to play for Fenerbahçe. Similarly Leo Franco has just joined and who knows if he will be popular or not. I suggest the entire section is removed or a separate page for foreigners who have played in Turkey is created instead. 74.65.225.29 (talk) 10:07, 24 July 2009 (UTC)

The first page of the wikipedia article currently states "A total of 66 clubs have competed in the Süper Lig, but only five have won the title: Beşiktaş (11), Bursaspor (1), Fenerbahçe (18), Galatasaray (17), and Trabzonspor (6)." This is clearly misleading as you can see at the bottom of this official link, *Besiktas is recognized as having 13 championships*. http://www.tff.org/default.aspx?pageID=379

The Turkish Football Federation recognizes Besiktas as having won 13 titles and this is widely recognized and accepted in Turkey. If you want to make an argument as to wording of "league" vs. a league precursor, then the wording may be changed. However, to have the main article on wikipedia about the Turkish league claim that Besiktas has 11 titles, when they are officially recognized and accepted in Turkey to have 13 is inappropriate. Someone who has editing privileges please correct this, as it is a common way fans of other teams try to discredit Besiktas.

Response: The current form of the top flight football league in Turkey was established in 1959. The 11 titles that is listed for Besiktas reflects this. Unless it can be listed as 11+2, with a note clarifying where the additional two came from.

Website link in the summary box
The link directs to a cellphone company's website which maybe the sponsor, but gives no info on the league. Should be replaced with official website (if one exists) or with a website with actual info on the league. A quick search gave me a link to http://www.soccerway.com/national/turkey/super-lig/2010-2011/regular-season/ —Preceding unsigned comment added by Askast (talk • contribs) 19:48, 26 August 2010 (UTC)
 * It used to link to the Turkcell Super Lig website, which was the official site, but their sponsorship ended this season and Spor Toto took over as sponsor. For now, I'll link the TFF website. Invisibletr (talk) 20:35, 26 August 2010 (UTC)

Move to Spor Toto
Why was this moved without any discussion? League articles should NOT be named after their sponsored name because they change every few years. Invisibletr (talk) 01:00, 5 February 2011 (UTC)