Talk:Sōyū Matsuoka

Falling out with Soto-shu
While I cannot include the information in the actual article there is information on Matsuoka's "falling out" with the Soto-shu I have from a reliable source in their organization. Apparently it occurred in the 1930s and, as this individual had heard, it was about not sending enough money back to Japan. It is possible the true controversy surrounding his Dharma heirs was that he gave them transmission while being excommunicated from the Soto-shu at the time, not necessarily that he gave too many of them transmission. Michael Ellston, a Dharma heir of Matsuoka, has since received Dharma transmission from Shohaku Okumura and is actively taking steps to bring Matsuoka's lineage into the fold of mainstream Soto Zen. He has established the Silent Thunder Order and is inviting other Dharma heirs to come to the Atlanta Zen Center for an ango and shiho ceremony, giving them transmission in a formally recognized Soto lineage. Just some interesting information not included in Ishmael Ford's book. (Mind meal (talk) 14:31, 20 March 2009 (UTC))