Talk:SIG Sauer P250

Requested move
SIG P250 → — The SIG Sauer P220, SIG Sauer P226, SIG Sauer P230, SIG Sauer P238 and SIG Sauer P239 are all "SIG Sauer", not "SIG". Consistency is good. The pistol is being sold by SIG Sauer now as the SIG Sauer P250. Faceless Enemy (talk) 18:38, 28 June 2010 (UTC)
 * moved, uncontroversial. billinghurst  sDrewth  13:38, 6 July 2010 (UTC)

Glass fiber reinforced (fiberglass) receivers?
From the 'Modular options' subsection in the Design Details: although fiberglass has been utilized for various bits found on other guns, I've always thought that the receivers used on the P250 variants were just plastic; you know, the heathen way of saying polymer. The receiver material I've found on the P250s that I've sampled doesn't feel much if any different from any of SIG's other plastic-receiver handguns (the SIGPro SP2022 or the P290). Neither of these have receivers that seem like they're glass fiber reinforced (either in feel or appearance), nor have I found documentation anywhere that says that glass fiber is used in the manufacturing of them. Seems like there needs to be some backup on this 'fact'. Monoblocks (talk) 14:26, 5 June 2011 (UTC)


 * See SIG-Sauer P250 owner manual page 11. Were the glass reinforcement exactly is applied or if it is generally applied in the grip module remains an open question. --Francis Flinch (talk) 17:23, 5 June 2011 (UTC)


 * I have no connection with the manufacturer and do not own one of these, but from the description it sounds very much like they are using a resin-filled oriented glass fiber material similar to DuPont's Zytel(tm), which is a nylon-fiberglass composite that's about a third glass and two thirds nylon by weight. Materials like this have become very commonplace in the design and manufacture of modern firearms.  Colt has used Zytel for M16 buttstocks and pistol grips for 30+ years, for example, and I am given to understand that Glock and HK use similar glass-filled polymer composites for the grip frames of their most modern offerings.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.41.40.21 (talk) 14:24, 18 June 2011 (UTC)

'Optimized' self-decocking?
Sounds very much like a marketing passage. What does 'optimized' mean in this context? Considering how the trigger quality of this gun platform is viewed in the consumer shooting community (generally negative), calling anything in regards to the handgun's trigger assembly or action as being 'optimized' seems quite suspect. Monoblocks (talk) 14:35, 5 June 2011 (UTC)

Do those shooters have any experience shooting this pistol? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.78.183.102 (talk) 10:30, 23 January 2012 (UTC)

Redesign
This article appears to have been written *before* Sig-Sauer completely redesigned the P-250 Compact. The original version of the gun did not do so well in initial tests/trials, and was turned down by many police departments and military units (as the article states). However, Sig-Sauer re-designed the gun and a newer model is now on the market (the original version was discontinued and can now only be obtained used). Since the re-design, the gun is now incredibly reliable and accurate -- outclassing and out-shooting any comparable pistol. Though its marketing and publicity suffered from the fiasco with the original design, the new P-250 is considered by many experts to be one of the most innovative and excellent weapons on the market. It's a shame that the article does not mention this. It only seems to mention some aesthetic and ergonomic changes to the weapon's design.

Even the picture shows the "old version" which is no longer in production. I happen to own a P-250 in 9mm, and would gladly supply pictures of it to contribute to the article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.142.175.21 (talk) 06:36, 19 March 2012 (UTC)


 * I've heard this too, and it's great news to me. The overall concept is pretty cool, and a decent, low-priced DAO handgun is a niche I'd love to see filled.  However, you need to find reputable sources that say this.  We can't just go out throwing stuff on there without sourcing it.  At most you could say "In 20XX, the P250 was redesigned to enhance reliability."  Even that would need a source.  Of course, pictures of the updated one would be great.  Feel free to upload them as long as you don't violate copyright (if they aren't yours), or you're okay with releasing them under an appropriate license.  I think it'd be good to keep the old picture around somewhere in the article, even if the gun has been redesigned.  Faceless Enemy (talk) 17:35, 19 March 2012 (UTC)

Flags etc.
I'm reverting this edit. First of all, the flags are used against our guidelines in MOS:FLAG, which discourages the use of flags in infoboxes and especially if there is no kind of national representation. There is no way in which these guns can be said to "represent" anything. Second, linking the country is unnecessary and discouraged: WP:OVERLINKING. As for the external links, see WP:EL, and particularly WP:ELMINOFFICIAL, which dictates one official link can be used, no more. The edit reinstated three such links. Plus, they're redundant, since the 250 site also links to the manufacturer (an unnecessary link anyway since the article isn't about SIG Sauer, but about one of their products) and to the Customer service section, linked in one of the re-added links. Drmies (talk) 15:36, 7 November 2013 (UTC)

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I removed several subsections which were either unsourced or not supported by reliable sources. Preserving here. –dlthewave ☎ 23:58, 22 February 2019 (UTC)


 * https://www.sigsauer.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/16SIG2039_P250OwnersManual_8501487-01REV01_LR.pdf sources quite some removed information.--Francis Flinch (talk) 12:51, 23 February 2019 (UTC)