Talk:SMS Helgoland (1912)/GA1

GA Review
The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.''

Reviewer: Parsecboy (talk · contribs) 00:33, 7 December 2011 (UTC)


 * GA review (see here for criteria)


 * 1) It is reasonably well written.
 * a (prose): b (MoS):
 * 1) It is factually accurate and verifiable.
 * a (references): b (citations to reliable sources):  c (OR):
 * 1) It is broad in its coverage.
 * a (major aspects): b (focused):
 * It would be good to a sentence or two on the outbreak of WWI in the first para of the service history section.
 * Done.
 * In the same vein, add a line on the end of the war in the last para of the Austrian section.
 * I don't even know where she was based when it ended. What would you suggest?
 * It doesn't need to specifically reference the ship, I'm looking for a more general statement about the end of the war. Maybe link to Villa Giusti, Saint-Germain-en-Laye, and Trianon as the major formal steps in ending the war with Austria-Hungary. On a related note, was Helgoland included in the transfer of ships to the new Yugoslavian Navy at the end of the war?
 * Alright, I've added what I think is necessary. Parsecboy (talk) 17:03, 19 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Link to Battle of the Strait of Otranto (1917) in the body
 * Even though it's linked in the lede?
 * I usually repeat links in the lead and the body, especially if they're a ways down in the article.
 * Halpern (Naval History of WWI) has some information not included in the article - forex, on the night of 22-23 November 1915 Helgoland, Saida, and the 1st Torpedo Division raided the Albanian coast and sank a pair of Italian transports
 * This also has material that could be added
 * According to this, Helgoland was involved in suppressing the Cattaro mutiny in 1918 - here's another account.
 * According to this, they sank the drifter Beneficent on the 31 May 1916 operation.
 * This says she was commissioned in August 1914, not September. Sondhaus confirms August here, on page 198. Sondhaus also mentions the ship several times - may be some good material there as well.
 * All the Sondhaus refs are to the battleship, the island or the battle. My source says that she was completed on 5 Sep, but she could have been commissioned earlier than that. Added all the rest of the info.--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 16:59, 7 December 2011 (UTC)
 * 1) It follows the neutral point of view policy.
 * Fair representation without bias:
 * 1) It is stable.
 * No edit wars, etc.:
 * 1) It is illustrated by images, where possible and appropriate.
 * a (images are tagged and non-free images have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):
 * 1) Overall:
 * Pass/Fail:
 * I'll do this review shortly. Parsecboy (talk) 00:33, 7 December 2011 (UTC)
 * 1) It is illustrated by images, where possible and appropriate.
 * a (images are tagged and non-free images have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):
 * 1) Overall:
 * Pass/Fail:
 * I'll do this review shortly. Parsecboy (talk) 00:33, 7 December 2011 (UTC)
 * I'll do this review shortly. Parsecboy (talk) 00:33, 7 December 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for the review.--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 16:59, 7 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Passing now. Parsecboy (talk) 17:03, 19 December 2011 (UTC)