Talk:SMS S36 (1914)

Edit conflict
We have just had an edit conflict. possibly not the first. I will reinstall your changes and then discuss them below. Gog the Mild (talk)

Gulf of Riga
Hi Regarding your last revert. Probably best if we look at this one aspect at a time if that is ok with you.

I am looking at Halpern. He states that S31 was sunk by a mine, west of Ruhnu, on the night of 19/20 August. Any problem with that being added to the article?

He states that "The Admiralstab did not agree [that "the operations were nevertheless a success"], and the forces from the High Seas fleet were sent back to the North Sea". Any issues with that being included? Gog the Mild (talk) 21:41, 13 August 2018 (UTC)
 * The trouble with giving fuller details of S31's loss is that it doesn't necessarily relate closely to S36, other than that were members of the same half-flotilla - while we know that S35 and V184 were present at S31s loss from Rollmann, we can't be certain that S36 was. It probably is reasonable to say that the high seas fleets units were withdrawn after the failure of the battle.Nigel Ish (talk) 21:57, 13 August 2018 (UTC)
 * He writes that the Germans sank only "a pair of small gunboats and a few merchantmen". So can I write in the article that 'The attempt failed to destroy any major Russian warships'?


 * Halpern: "The Germans had not achieved all of their operational goals, such as... laying the minefield off Moon Sound". So am I ok to mention that 'The attempt failed... to lay the planned minefield'?


 * Nearly an edit conflict. It is well past my bedtime, so I will get back to you tomorrow. Gog the Mild (talk) 22:00, 13 August 2018 (UTC)


 * A quick last comment. We are clearly inputting simultaneously here, so bear with me. Hopefully we will be able to establish that fabled Wikipedia consensus. Gog the Mild (talk) 22:03, 13 August 2018 (UTC)


 * Hi. Thanks for the (very) prompt response. True, we don't actually know that S36 was involved in any way in the loss of S31. But I wasn't trying to suggest that. It seems to me that a reader would be interested to read that one of the other ships in her half flotilla was sunk, and a bit of detail. Rather than lumping the loss in with all of the German losses.


 * Your last sentence seems to cover my points timed 3 minutes later. Yes? Gog the Mild (talk) 12:56, 14 August 2018 (UTC)