Talk:SMS Wettin/GA1

GA Review
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 * GA review (see here for criteria)


 * 1) It is reasonably well written.
 * a (prose): b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists):
 * 1) It is factually accurate and verifiable.
 * a (references): b (citations to reliable sources):  c (OR):
 * 1) It is broad in its coverage.
 * a (major aspects): b (focused):
 * 1) It follows the neutral point of view policy.
 * Fair representation without bias:
 * 1) It is stable.
 * No edit wars, etc.:
 * 1) It is illustrated by images, where possible and appropriate.
 * a (images are tagged and non-free images have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):
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 * 1) It is illustrated by images, where possible and appropriate.
 * a (images are tagged and non-free images have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):
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Certainly a GA-class article. I have a few quibbles that I'd like to bring up for discussion before signing off:

I propose the following wikilinks:
 * Links
 * para 1 - sister ship
 * para 1 - capital ship
 * para 2 - training ship
 * para 2 - depot ship
 * para 2 - scrapping to ship breaking
 * para 6 - I wish there were links for the guns. The 24cm guns might be 24 cm SK L/30 "Theodor Otto", but I don't think there's an article for "15 cm SK L/40".
 * para last - Rönnebeck is apparently a part of the city of Bremen.
 * All done. Parsecboy (talk) 21:34, 2 September 2010 (UTC)


 * Head-scratchers
 * I found myself scratching my head at the specification of forward draft &mdash; it's typically the smallest and most variable. Midships or deep draft would seem more useful.  Is this a commonly used statistic?
 * Groner's gives both forward and aft draft. I added the aft draft figure. Parsecboy (talk) 21:34, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Cylindrical boiler presumably means Cylindrical fire-tube boiler. I have no idea what a naval boiler is. Later Maybe naval boiler=Water-tube boiler.  Haus Talk 20:54, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
 * A boiler designed for naval use? That's all I got. Parsecboy (talk) 21:34, 2 September 2010 (UTC)


 * Citations
 * I think this sentence should be cited: "The Deutschland class battleships—the most powerful battleships yet built in Germany—were beginning to enter service by 1907."
 * Herwig, p. 45 covers that. I don't like to put a citation at the end of every sentence if one will do for a whole paragraph - seems like over-citing to me. Parsecboy (talk) 21:34, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Other
 * I tripped over "Her sisters" and would prefer to see "Her sister-ships". Likely a matter of personal style, but wanted to at least mention it.
 * I changed a couple of them to "sister ships" to mix up word choice. Thanks for reviewing the article, by the way. Parsecboy (talk) 21:34, 2 September 2010 (UTC)

It's a pleasure to get back into the swing of GA-reviewing with such a prolific editor. I think that, vis-a-vis all ship articles, providing a level of detail about equipment beyond names and model numbers would be a service to our readers, but it's certainly not this article's responsibility to break that ground. Well done, and please ping me when you take this article to ACR so I can watch. Cheers. Haus Talk 21:52, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Pass
 * Thanks a lot. For the technical information, I generally prefer to keep the in-depth stuff in class articles and give only a brief overview in the individual ship articles, but then that's just my preference (with the exception of unique ships, of course). I do know Sturmvogel likes to have more technical stuff in the ship articles, but again, that's his preference. I'll let you know when this one goes to ACR, but there are a bunch of articles waiting :) Parsecboy (talk) 21:58, 2 September 2010 (UTC)

Reviewer: Haus Talk 20:19, 2 September 2010 (UTC)