Talk:SS Lurline (1932)

Incorrect date?
I was Radio Officer on the SS Ellinis (at the time the world's youngest ships officer!) on her last scheduled voyage from Australia to Europe leaving Melbourne in February 1975 on Voyage 51N (if not 52N) N being for northbound. She arrived with us in Southampton in March 1975 after 5 weeks at sea. She did not proceed to Rotterdam as scheduled, there was some problem, perhaps that was the engine problem? In any case, the paragraph in the Article here is wrong and should be edited:

"In April 1974, cruising to Japan, Ellinis developed major problems in one engine. Fortunately, Chandris were able to buy a surplus engine from her sister ship Homeric (ex-Mariposa) which was being broken up in Taiwan at the time. The replacement was carried out in Rotterdam, finishing in March 1975."

Is Ellinis developed the problem in April 1974, then it was either not fully fixed until March 1975, unlikely, or a new repair was done in March 1975, but she could not have sailed with us in February 1975 as she was operating safely for that voyage. So perhaps the repairs finished earlier, e.g. in late 1974 prior to her voyage (50S or 51S?) to Australia, or, were considered complete but there were problems on our voyage at the end so it may have been decided to "complete" the repairs in March 1975 in Rotterdam. Either way, it is best to perhaps enter the following paragaph so as to leave the picture complete, in which case, if no further sources are available to substantiate and explain the existing entry, this one is certainly factural (I can be contacted at info at auspro.biz and via mathaba@gmail.com or phone Australia 0404041991):

Last Scheduled Voyage from Australia
In February 1975, the SS Ellinis departed Port Melbourne on her last scheduled Northbound voyage from Australia to Europe (51N or 52N?). She called at ports in Wellington, Tahiti, Panama, Curacao, Azores, Vigo Spain, arriving in Southampton in March 1975. She originally was scheduled to call at Rotterdam too, but passengers were disembarked and given alternative travel to Rotterdam via bus to the east coast then ferry due to some problem (engine trouble?).

The world's youngest radio officer Louis Szondy was aboard the ship which operated the radio callsign SWXX on that voyage, aged 11 years and 11 months. At departure in Port Melbourne he had been designated as Radio Officer, rank of Apprentice, by the Captain of the SS Ellinis, because he not only was proficient at high speed morse code but had already extensive knowledge of ship-shore communications, procedures, frequencies and callsigns.

Move "MS Ellinis" to "SS Lurline"?
Since the ship was originally named SS Lurline, wouldn't it be more suitable to move the MS Ellinis page text to the SS Lurline page? As Lurline, there will be more material available to fill out the infobox. Chron order writing style will be easier to develop. Binksternet (talk) 18:44, 4 January 2008 (UTC)


 * Move is complete. Binksternet (talk) 19:52, 8 January 2008 (UTC)

Why move it? It’s was fine where it was. Fourostrich8696 (talk) 19:34, 28 October 2022 (UTC)

War voyages
This ship page could use a war voyages section like its sisters SS Monterey and SS Mariposa. Binksternet (talk) 00:07, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

Pronunciation
I heard on an old radio program of a ship that went from the States to Hawaii and I'm pretty sure it was this ship. However, it was pronounced "Loor-ling". Would anyone know what would have been the common pronunciation of the day? If it wasn't as its spelt, "lur-line", then maybe this should be added, if a citation can be found. BashBrannigan (talk) 15:09, 3 February 2013 (UTC)

USAT usage
This is an example of the sometimes blurred line of "USAT" that is not precise. The ship was not bareboat chartered nor crewed by the Army and thus does not meet the more accepted use of that designation. This, and other ships are explicitly excepted in official sources such as The Transportation Corps: Responsibilities, Organization, And Operations (Chester Wardlow, Center Of Military History, United States Army, 1999) with this on page 222: "The more exacting problems in connection with this combined use of shipping concerned troop transports, particularly the larger and faster vessels which ran without escorts and were moved freely from route to route according to the urgency of the needs. Among the vessels of this type in the British pool were the British liners Queen Mary, Queen Elizabeth, Aquitania, Mauretania, Empress of Scotland, and Andes, the French Ile de France and Pasteur, and the Dutch Nieuw Amsterdam. Among the larger American troop carriers were the Navy-operated West Point, Wakefield, Mount Vernon, Monticello, and Hermitage; the Army-operated George Washington and Edmund B. Alexander, the Argentina, Brazil, John Ericsson, Lurline, Mariposa, Monterey, and Uruguay, which were operated by agents of the War Shipping Administration ; and the warbuilt, Navy-operated “Admirals” and “Generals” (P-2 type)." Palmeira (talk) 17:58, 8 July 2013 (UTC)

Block move of "other" ships named Lurline
The article has a title and identification regarding a specific ship. In the middle of the piece it turns into a list of other ships of a particular line having that name. Then it continues with the specific ship under another line and name. Those other ships in sections need coverage, just not in the middle of an article about a particular ship. Rather than tag the article as having a problem or moving those to a list of ships of the Matson line named Lurline now I am moving those sections to a tail end main section clearly marked "Other ships" for now. Eventually they should either be merged with articles that exist (if the case) or form a list in a separate article. Palmeira (talk) 13:31, 8 June 2021 (UTC)

Tag reconsideration: After block move it was obvious the lead is the exclusive information on the ship built in 1932 named Lurline and the first main section is not about that period but about a later career. The article needs revision. Palmeira (talk) 14:02, 8 June 2021 (UTC)